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  • F [email protected]

    How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

    I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
    However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

    Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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    Borg from the server to the nas, aws glacier from the nas to offsite.

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    • F [email protected]

      How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

      I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
      However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

      Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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      shimitar@downonthestreet.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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      Rest+backrest and the 3.2.1 rule.

      One backup local on an external drive on my server
      Second backup on another disk connected to a WiFi ap in the house.

      Third off site backup copy on my VPS.

      All done by rest.

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      • F [email protected]

        How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

        I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
        However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

        Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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        #6

        I have 5 copies of all my files on 5 devices, synced using syncthing with staggered file versioning. 2 of those are with friends and family who let me put a thin client at their place.

        To protect against me misconfiguring syncthing, or some bug deleting all copies, every 3 months I manually make a copy and put it on a hard drive into a fire resistant safe.

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        • F [email protected]

          How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

          I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
          However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

          Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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          Put important stuff in a cryptomator folder, sync it elsewhere with syncthing.

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          • F [email protected]

            How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

            I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
            However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

            Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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            #8

            I have TrueNAS with 2x 6TB HDD's in a ZFS Mirror

            I plan on getting another 6TB drive, leave it at my parents and have it power on once a week and sync, so that if my house burns down I don't lose everything

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            • I [email protected]

              I have 5 copies of all my files on 5 devices, synced using syncthing with staggered file versioning. 2 of those are with friends and family who let me put a thin client at their place.

              To protect against me misconfiguring syncthing, or some bug deleting all copies, every 3 months I manually make a copy and put it on a hard drive into a fire resistant safe.

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              #9

              Now this is solid!!

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              • F [email protected]

                How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                #10

                Personally, I'm planning additional physical storage of photos off site. Not yet configured but planning for a subset of photos deemed too important to lose to be automatically printed and stored on physical media (DVDs).

                In general I'm hoping it to promote a more careful approach to what media really is important to keep.

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                • F [email protected]

                  How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                  I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                  However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                  Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                  #11

                  I use nextcloud and I love it.

                  You want to follow the 3-2-1 strategy: 3 copies of your data on at least 2 different forms of media, and 1 backup being off-line.

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                  • F [email protected]

                    How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                    I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                    However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                    Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                    #12

                    One copy on the file system (which gets pulled into selfhosted picture apps) and once again in my nextcloud instance. The original folder gets a versioned remote backup

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                    • F [email protected]

                      How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                      I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                      However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                      Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                      #13

                      It really depends on how much you enjoy to set things up for yourself and how much it hurts you to give up control over your data with managed solutions.

                      If you want to do it yourself, I recommend taking a look at ZFS and its RAIDZ configurations, snapshots and replication capabilities. It's probably the most solid setup you will achieve, but possibly also a bit complicated to wrap your head around at first.

                      But there are a ton of options as beautifully represented by all the comments.

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                      • E [email protected]

                        I have TrueNAS with 2x 6TB HDD's in a ZFS Mirror

                        I plan on getting another 6TB drive, leave it at my parents and have it power on once a week and sync, so that if my house burns down I don't lose everything

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                        Obligatory: RAID is not a backup.

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                          I have 5 copies of all my files on 5 devices, synced using syncthing with staggered file versioning. 2 of those are with friends and family who let me put a thin client at their place.

                          To protect against me misconfiguring syncthing, or some bug deleting all copies, every 3 months I manually make a copy and put it on a hard drive into a fire resistant safe.

                          tfowinder@lemmy.mlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Need to give synthing a try

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                          • F [email protected]

                            How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                            I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                            However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                            Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                            1. Entropy is a law of our universe. All data wants to be lost given a long enough timeline and without attention.

                            2. Divide your data into what you can't do without and what you may not care about losing.

                            3. Take a backup out of your hands, make it as automatic as possible.

                            4. I sync to encrypted folders on Google drive then use msp360 cloud to automatically copy everything in that drive to another cheap cloud storage that is client side encrypted.

                            For the protection it gives me, it's cheap.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                              I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                              However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                              Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                              I don’t follow the full 3-2-1 rule, but I did want some sort of offsite backup for my Nextcloud so I use Duplicity to back up my user data from Nextcloud, plus all my DockerCompose files that run my server, to an S3 bucket. Costs me like $2/mo. Way cheaper than google drive

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                              • F [email protected]

                                How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                                I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                                However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                                Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                                I use a 48TB ZFS RAIDZ2 pool to maintain data integrity locally and keep rolling ZFS snapshots with sanoid so that data recovery to any point within the last month is possible. Then I use borgmatic (borg) to sync the important data (~1TB) to a Servarica VPS (Polar Bear plan, which works out to be cheaper than Backblaze B2 costs for my purposes). The Servarica server really sucks in terms of CPU, and it's quite sluggish, but it's enough for daily backups. I also self-host healthchecks.io on a free Fly.io VPS thing (not sure if they offer this anymore) to make sure the backups are actually happening successfully, and hosting that on a third-party VPS means that it's not going to fail at the same time my server does. Then I use Uptime Kuma to make sure everything is consistently alive (especially the healthchecks.io server, which in turn verifies that Uptime Kuma stays alive). I also run the same borg configuration to back up to a plain non-redundant disk locally.

                                The downside of this setup is that I'm only truly backing up a fraction of my pool, but most of my pool is stuff that I can redownload and set up again in the event of e.g. a house fire. I also run a daily script to dump a lot of metadata about my systems and pool, like directory listings of my media folders and installed programs/etc, which means that even if the data might be lost, I have a map of what I need to grab again.

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                                  I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                                  However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                                  Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                                  I have ResillioSync setup witch syncs between different family members. Both me and my uncle make offline backups of the dataset.

                                  My pictures on my phone are backupped by iCloud, OneDrive, Resilliosync and Immich ....
                                  The exports are all posted in the Resilliosync dataset and in Immich.

                                  My most important files are on Protondrive and I used to make backups using Perfectbackup to my NAS, but since I ditched WIndows I need something else/

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                                    I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                                    However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                                    Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                                    I’m new/planning to get more into self hosting

                                    I have a crappy NAS in the basement I archive to and copy my borg repos to.

                                    Then I pay for a Dropbox style cloud service and I copy my borg archives there. It’s kind of janky but it’s cheap and works.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                                      I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                                      However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                                      Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                                      I use storj. Its well integrated with true nas. And the encrypted files are fragmented, duplicated and scattered around the world. (many people host storj node no their true nas as well).

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                                      • F [email protected]

                                        How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                                        I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                                        However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                                        Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                                        I rsync to a storage box from Hetzner.

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                                        • F [email protected]

                                          How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?

                                          I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files.
                                          However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).

                                          Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?

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                                          I rsync nightly to an old synology box. It's in an out building, so if there's a fire, it comes with me.

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