Plex has paywalled my server!
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Welcome to “People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source.”
How do you personally 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt know that Jellyfin is the right solution? Why not a VPN, shared folder, and VLC? What about running a DNLA server?
Edit: All of you downvoting don’t know; and it makes you salty.
Jellyfin has a DLNA plugin
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I thought free software was when you were the product and non-free software actually supported developers.
Or do you mean non-OSS?
"Free Software" is a defined term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
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Welcome to “People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source.”
How do you personally 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt know that Jellyfin is the right solution? Why not a VPN, shared folder, and VLC? What about running a DNLA server?
Edit: All of you downvoting don’t know; and it makes you salty.
You mean a morally "right" solution?
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I thought self hosting was about learning networking basics like DNS and setting up let's encrypt.
So much whining in here about the most simple stuff being too complex.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I disagree; Self-hosting is for a variety of things, and plenty of people (in fact, I’d say probably the majority of Plex users) just want to be able to pirate Netflix without a ton of setup.
Is learning some networking inevitable? Yeah, probably. But I also think this xkcd is apt. The reality is that what may be simple for you and me actually requires a lot of studying for a complete novice. Plenty of people will need to google what a port is, let alone how to forward one. And that’s assuming they even know the word “port” to google. Plenty of people won’t even know where to start.
And true novices are hopefully going to be extremely wary of any info they find online. It’s easy to fuck something up without even realizing it, and leave your entire system exposed; especially when the braindead “lol just forward your Jellyfin port and use your public IP” advice is posted somewhere in every single advice thread.
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OP is also in the allegedly ultra rare camp of “successfully configured Jellyfin and lived to tell the tale.” Not what I’d expect of someone unable to configure Plex correctly. I’ve not set up a Plex server myself but my guess is it wasn’t clear that it was misconfigured - it did work previously, after all.
I can't speak for OP, but I self host lots of stuff, have literally dozens of services running, have an Ansible repo to manage it all and routi some stuff through a VPS, not to mention my day job has included managing services in one way or another for a long while. This is to say, I know what I'm doing. I couldn't setup Plex to work the way I wanted to, they expect it to run in a docker with network set to host mode, I couldn't find any way to tell Plex that my living room TV was in the same network, it just wouldn't accept any connections as local. I know I shot myself in the foot here by not letting it run with network on host mode, but I shouldn't have to, the port was exposed, I could reach it through the local network IP, but I wasn't able to stream any content locally.
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To set it up “correctly”, yes. It’ll require owning your own domain, being able to configure it properly (with either a static IP, or DDNS to point to your server at home), knowing how to automate https certificate refreshes, and a few other things. Plex just requires forwarding a port in your router.
Worse. Exposing Jellyfin to the internet is a bad idea given the teams stance on security.
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415#issue-824791596The only safe way to host jellyfin is with a vpn.
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OP has a misconfigured server and isn't connecting to their server over LAN.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just because the destination IP address is not a LAN address? That's not misconfiguration, that's a legitimate use of NAT reflection/loopback. If that's how it determines who is streaming remotely then just run it behind nginx that forgets to set the correct headers.
Edit: Apparently Plex centrally relays all the traffic? Self-hosted my
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The tailnet domain doesn't really matter that much if you have your own. I just use tailscale IP for everything that's not in adgaurs with a host name already
Or even just use the tailnet domain you can generate.
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Welp, i killed mine yesterday as it wouldnt let me stream while offline. Modem died so no Internet for me. Why do i have everything local if it dosent work while offline...
Exactly. Thats why i use jellyfin now. Try installing it alongside. For me it worked well.
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I’ve never seen the appeal. A simple smb share and Kodi work perfectly fine no?
Smb means you have to download the whole file. That isnt gonna fly in every configuration. But jellyfin does the trick easily.
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If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass, well you're in luck because the Torrentio plug-in is compatible with Debrid services (Real-Debrid is a good one). They're cheaper than a VPN (less than €3/mo) and get you direct downloads which ISPs don't care about since you're not distributing files like you would with a torrent client. What's nice is that they work with any torrent—not just video—so you can download wherever you want at 1gbps speeds so long as the torrent has at least one seed. Since you're not actually interacting with the torrents themselves, there's no need for a VPN.
Setup is easy. The only thing you need to do is install the Stremio app on your TV, then open it and install the Torrentio plug-in. From there you configure your preferences like preferred resolution, language, etc, enter your Debrid service credentials if you have them; after that you install additional plug-ins for the kind of content you want. I'd recommend starting off with the Streaming Catalogs (lists popular content from Netflix, Amazon, Disney HBO, etc.)and Trakt.tv plug-ins (recommends content based on your viewing habits). There's also plug-ins for anime if that's your thing. Once you install the plug-ins you like, the only thing left to do is pick something to watch and enjoy.
You can also download the Stremio app to your phone and configure everything from there if you don't want to fumble with doing all of this with the TV remote. I'd recommend doing it this way so that all you have to do on the TV is fire up the Stremio app and enjoy.
If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass
Uploading copyrightes material is illegal pretty much everywhere I know of.
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Saying software does not have huge ongoing costs shows you’ve never worked on any huge software system. My works ongoing costs for hosting/scaling/storing data are millions of dollars a year.
You're both right and wrong.
Its like saying "saying a company is easy to run shows you have never run an huge company."
Both are false dychotomies. The amount of hosting costs, manpower, etc does not come from the project but how it is set up.
If you have to run servers for a software at all determines the cost for hosting for example. Same for every other aspect.
Linux is a huge software project I'm working on. Yet the cost of it is a joke compared to its size. It has way more users than plex.
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Are you saying that you’re on your home network with your Plex server and it won’t let you play your media without paying? That’s not true if so. You must be outside the network.
That is exactly the case. It is absolutely true and accusing me of lying is not okay.
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Every non-Free Software will betray you eventually. It's only a matter of time.
A little oversymplified but i'll take it.
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Why anyone still uses Plex for new setups is beyond me.
Well, i didnt. Its a legacy install and i had jellyfin already running parallel because of the remote streaming paywall they introduced.
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In this thread:
- An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
- People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
- “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
The condescension in your first point is brutal. I suggest you apologize.
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If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass
Uploading copyrightes material is illegal pretty much everywhere I know of.
Many places don't enforce those laws for simply torrenting.
Some countries (US) ask the ISP to send warning letters and might disable the internet. In other countries law firms get personal details from the ISP and send a costly letter of a thousand Euro for a single infraction like in Germany.
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Free as in freedom, not as in free beer.
I thought we switched to libre for that definition and since then used free only as in free beer.
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Its not a local connection if you're getting this message. You might be in the same network, but for some reason it's not connecting directly.
You're assuming something that you just cant. I run this network alongside 5 others, some of them professional, for years. My configuration is standard and i'm using the software the same way i did for years.
If plex redirects my call to their server, that is their problem, not mine. I dont care what their inner workings are. I use a local address and this has happened for the first time.
Is it possible that it is an honest mistake on the side of plex? Yes.
That does not absolve them from the end result.
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Many places don't enforce those laws for simply torrenting.
Some countries (US) ask the ISP to send warning letters and might disable the internet. In other countries law firms get personal details from the ISP and send a costly letter of a thousand Euro for a single infraction like in Germany.
That's true, but ISPs have logs. And if something happens that makes the police change their mind about enforcing the law, you might be fucked, retroactively.
