So, I currently have a Netgear ReadyNAS 314 with 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Intel Atom D2701 and 4GB RAM, running Debian 12, and since getting it I've been getting more into self hosting. What I have now is primarily too weak in the CPU and RAM department, but it could also use more HDDs. I'm aiming for 5-6 3.5 HDDs, 1 Nvme, 1 2.5" SSD.

What I'm currently running:

• Samba and NFS server

• OpenVPN

• Jellyseerr/Jellyfin/*arr stack

• Pangolin

• Dawarich

• Immich

• rsnapshot

• Homepage

And it's rather sluggish right now, and is almost filling up its 4GB of swap.

What I'd also like to be able to run/have:

• Nextcloud

• Transcoding (including ability to decode AV1, but preferably also encode)

• Anything else I may want to run (working on degoogling myself)

• ECC RAM (to prevent bitrot, I'm already running btrfs raid1 to prevent bitrot from faulty disks)

• 1x 2.5G ethernet

If possible I'd like to have some room for upgradeability. I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact, especially not very wide unless I can find a better place in my office for it.

I'm looking at a Jonsbo N1 chassis (17cm wide) , but I'm also following a Readynas 626 (19cm wide) in an online auction. Options:

Intel N100 board

Pros: cheap, low power, quicksync with av1 decode

Cons: boards with 2.5G ethernet have to be ordered from Aliexpress and have no support and uses the JMB585 chip that prevents low power C states, limited pcie lanes, no AV1 encode, not very upgradeable (1 DIMM, soldered CPU) , no ECC, I worry it may be too slow

Intel 13100

Pros: AV1 decode, quite fast, upgradeable

Cons: No ECC, relatively expensive, no AV1 encode

AMD 8500G

Pros: AV1 enc/dec, ECC, relatively fast, upgradeable

Cons: relatively expensive, not as low power as the 13100

Readynas 626

Pros: enterprise grade HW, less DIY, ECC, may be relatively cheap

Cons: high power for its performance (roughly that of the N100), wider (19cm) than a Jonsbo N1 (17cm), not upgradeable (no CPU or mobo swap), expensive DDR4 2133 ECC UDIMM, doesn't have M.2 but has a PCIE slot

I'd love to hear what you think about these options and whether you have other concerns that I haven't thought about.

Edit: I just now realized that the 13100 doesn't have AV1 encode in HW, that didn't come until Core Ultra. And wowee, suitable mITX mobos start at 400$ here! I think AMD is the realistic choice if I want to go for AV1 HW encode...

So, I currently have a Netgear ReadyNAS 314 with 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Intel Atom D2701 and 4GB RAM, running Debian 12, and since getting it I've been getting more into self hosting. What I have now is primarily too weak in the CPU and RAM department, but it could also use more HDDs. I'm aiming for 5-6 3.5 HDDs, 1 Nvme, 1 2.5" SSD.

What I'm currently running:

• Samba and NFS server

• OpenVPN

• Jellyseerr/Jellyfin/*arr stack

• Pangolin

• Dawarich

• Immich

• rsnapshot

• Homepage

And it's rather sluggish right now, and is almost filling up its 4GB of swap.

What I'd also like to be able to run/have:

• Nextcloud

• Transcoding (including ability to decode AV1, but preferably also encode)

• Anything else I may want to run (working on degoogling myself)

• ECC RAM (to prevent bitrot, I'm already running btrfs raid1 to prevent bitrot from faulty disks)

• 1x 2.5G ethernet

If possible I'd like to have some room for upgradeability. I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact, especially not very wide unless I can find a better place in my office for it.

I'm looking at a Jonsbo N1 chassis (17cm wide) , but I'm also following a Readynas 626 (19cm wide) in an online auction. Options:

Intel N100 board

Pros: cheap, low power, quicksync with av1 decode

Cons: boards with 2.5G ethernet have to be ordered from Aliexpress and have no support and uses the JMB585 chip that prevents low power C states, limited pcie lanes, no AV1 encode, not very upgradeable (1 DIMM, soldered CPU) , no ECC, I worry it may be too slow

Intel 13100

Pros: AV1 decode, quite fast, upgradeable

Cons: No ECC, relatively expensive, no AV1 encode

AMD 8500G

Pros: AV1 enc/dec, ECC, relatively fast, upgradeable

Cons: relatively expensive, not as low power as the 13100

Readynas 626

Pros: enterprise grade HW, less DIY, ECC, may be relatively cheap

Cons: high power for its performance (roughly that of the N100), wider (19cm) than a Jonsbo N1 (17cm), not upgradeable (no CPU or mobo swap), expensive DDR4 2133 ECC UDIMM, doesn't have M.2 but has a PCIE slot

I'd love to hear what you think about these options and whether you have other concerns that I haven't thought about.

Edit: I just now realized that the 13100 doesn't have AV1 encode in HW, that didn't come until Core Ultra. And wowee, suitable mITX mobos start at 400$ here! I think AMD is the realistic choice if I want to go for AV1 HW encode...

What's your budget? I'm a big fan of old Xeon servers.

I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact,

Considering that OP was targeting an N100 I don’t think an old Xeon, especially one without integrated graphics, would be close to that.

First, I think you're attacking this from the wrong angle. You're focused on ECC memory for some reason, but that's not going to prevent bitrot, just potentially reduce errors in transfer, or catch issues. Your filesystem of choice has more to do with degradation in storage.

Second, you haven't mentioned any of the boards and their storage capabilities. Do they support the correct number of drives you want to use? Do they support hot-swap, and is that even something you care about?

Last, you want more services, and but are worried about power consumption...that's not how that works. More services means more CPU and MEM util, which means more power usage. You can either constrain your TDP at that point by using an UNDERpowered CPU and have that tradeoff, or provide a more capable CPU and take an increased TDP. There is no third option, that's just how it works. Pick the more capable CPU and take the power hit (really, it's going to be minor compared to a large server), and just run the things you need to run instead of coming back in a year and wanting to flip it again.

I have a Jonsbo N3 and I've been happy with it so far. The N1 and N2 only fit four drives, so if you want more, you'll have to get the N3 as well. And you'll have to get an HBA or something, because your motherboard will probably only have four SATA ports.

The biggest power draw will be the drives, also. And you don't really need ECC on the desktop; random bit flips are uncommon and rarely significant when they happen. Your filesystem and/or RAID should protect against disk corruption.

Thanks, the Jonsbo N1 actually has five hotswap bays, and I believe you can squeeze in another 3.5" besides the PSU if you have a small PSU. I'll consider the N3 but I don't think it will fit where I have my current NAS so I'll have to replan a bit.

Yes, I'm thinking about either getting a PCIE SAS HBA to open up the option for SAS drives, or to get an ASM1166 M.2 to 6xSATA.

You're right that I've focused too much on ECC, I think I'll see it as nice to have more than something I'd prefer to have.

Yeah, old Xeons tend to not be very low power, also I don't think I'll be able to find one with a mini ITX board to fit it in a compact case. Also, I'd probably need to add a discrete GPU, which adds to the cost and power consumption.

I want a low power build to limit heat and noise produced in my office room, to limit the electricity bill and as I understood it the case I'm considering also doesn't have the best thermals, so I don't want to put a CPU with too high a TDP into it.

The ReadyNAS 626 actually has a Xeon D-1521, but with a quite low TDP - 45W.

Regarding budget, I'm aiming for 400-800$. The N100 option, including case and PSU (but not disks) is at the lower end of this, while the 8500G and 13100 options are at the upper end.

I got a sff P330 Xeon with integrated graphics for ~$500 two years ago that includes case power supply etc. Far faster than an n100 and even lower power than if you added a GPU to an n100.

I just plugged in a kilowatt to check:

My Lenovo sff workstation running Plex idles at 15 watts- which is 90% of the time. Streaming 4k 52Mbs hevc (This Flash Gordon is my torture test that caused me to upgrade 2 years ago) it's 18 watts! I was so surprised that I went back and unplugged the Ethernet thinking I put the killawatt on the wrong server.

So, I currently have a Netgear ReadyNAS 314 with 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Intel Atom D2701 and 4GB RAM, running Debian 12, and since getting it I've been getting more into self hosting. What I have now is primarily too weak in the CPU and RAM department, but it could also use more HDDs. I'm aiming for 5-6 3.5 HDDs, 1 Nvme, 1 2.5" SSD.

What I'm currently running:

• Samba and NFS server

• OpenVPN

• Jellyseerr/Jellyfin/*arr stack

• Pangolin

• Dawarich

• Immich

• rsnapshot

• Homepage

And it's rather sluggish right now, and is almost filling up its 4GB of swap.

What I'd also like to be able to run/have:

• Nextcloud

• Transcoding (including ability to decode AV1, but preferably also encode)

• Anything else I may want to run (working on degoogling myself)

• ECC RAM (to prevent bitrot, I'm already running btrfs raid1 to prevent bitrot from faulty disks)

• 1x 2.5G ethernet

If possible I'd like to have some room for upgradeability. I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact, especially not very wide unless I can find a better place in my office for it.

I'm looking at a Jonsbo N1 chassis (17cm wide) , but I'm also following a Readynas 626 (19cm wide) in an online auction. Options:

Intel N100 board

Pros: cheap, low power, quicksync with av1 decode

Cons: boards with 2.5G ethernet have to be ordered from Aliexpress and have no support and uses the JMB585 chip that prevents low power C states, limited pcie lanes, no AV1 encode, not very upgradeable (1 DIMM, soldered CPU) , no ECC, I worry it may be too slow

Intel 13100

Pros: AV1 decode, quite fast, upgradeable

Cons: No ECC, relatively expensive, no AV1 encode

AMD 8500G

Pros: AV1 enc/dec, ECC, relatively fast, upgradeable

Cons: relatively expensive, not as low power as the 13100

Readynas 626

Pros: enterprise grade HW, less DIY, ECC, may be relatively cheap

Cons: high power for its performance (roughly that of the N100), wider (19cm) than a Jonsbo N1 (17cm), not upgradeable (no CPU or mobo swap), expensive DDR4 2133 ECC UDIMM, doesn't have M.2 but has a PCIE slot

I'd love to hear what you think about these options and whether you have other concerns that I haven't thought about.

Edit: I just now realized that the 13100 doesn't have AV1 encode in HW, that didn't come until Core Ultra. And wowee, suitable mITX mobos start at 400$ here! I think AMD is the realistic choice if I want to go for AV1 HW encode...

Interesting, I'll investigate this!

So, I currently have a Netgear ReadyNAS 314 with 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Intel Atom D2701 and 4GB RAM, running Debian 12, and since getting it I've been getting more into self hosting. What I have now is primarily too weak in the CPU and RAM department, but it could also use more HDDs. I'm aiming for 5-6 3.5 HDDs, 1 Nvme, 1 2.5" SSD.

What I'm currently running:

• Samba and NFS server

• OpenVPN

• Jellyseerr/Jellyfin/*arr stack

• Pangolin

• Dawarich

• Immich

• rsnapshot

• Homepage

And it's rather sluggish right now, and is almost filling up its 4GB of swap.

What I'd also like to be able to run/have:

• Nextcloud

• Transcoding (including ability to decode AV1, but preferably also encode)

• Anything else I may want to run (working on degoogling myself)

• ECC RAM (to prevent bitrot, I'm already running btrfs raid1 to prevent bitrot from faulty disks)

• 1x 2.5G ethernet

If possible I'd like to have some room for upgradeability. I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact, especially not very wide unless I can find a better place in my office for it.

I'm looking at a Jonsbo N1 chassis (17cm wide) , but I'm also following a Readynas 626 (19cm wide) in an online auction. Options:

Intel N100 board

Pros: cheap, low power, quicksync with av1 decode

Cons: boards with 2.5G ethernet have to be ordered from Aliexpress and have no support and uses the JMB585 chip that prevents low power C states, limited pcie lanes, no AV1 encode, not very upgradeable (1 DIMM, soldered CPU) , no ECC, I worry it may be too slow

Intel 13100

Pros: AV1 decode, quite fast, upgradeable

Cons: No ECC, relatively expensive, no AV1 encode

AMD 8500G

Pros: AV1 enc/dec, ECC, relatively fast, upgradeable

Cons: relatively expensive, not as low power as the 13100

Readynas 626

Pros: enterprise grade HW, less DIY, ECC, may be relatively cheap

Cons: high power for its performance (roughly that of the N100), wider (19cm) than a Jonsbo N1 (17cm), not upgradeable (no CPU or mobo swap), expensive DDR4 2133 ECC UDIMM, doesn't have M.2 but has a PCIE slot

I'd love to hear what you think about these options and whether you have other concerns that I haven't thought about.

Edit: I just now realized that the 13100 doesn't have AV1 encode in HW, that didn't come until Core Ultra. And wowee, suitable mITX mobos start at 400$ here! I think AMD is the realistic choice if I want to go for AV1 HW encode...

I'm a big fan of old PC parts. My current NAS/home lab is my old PC, so a Ryzen 1700 + GTX 750 Ti. It's overkill for what I need, doesn't use a ton of power, and I didn't need to pay anything for it.

If that's not available, I recommend second hand. Look around your local area and see what's available, or check online at places like eBay. Be mindful of power usage for server products if that matters to you.

My next option after that depends on what I'm looking for. A mini PC with an external drive enclosure can be really nice, and there are some reasonable ITX-esque DIY rigs with drive bays that look nice. I'll be a lot more picky when buying new though, so I'm not going to recommend specific setups without knowing your priorities (space? Power usage? Noise?).

ECC is nice, but not a requirement. AV1 on the CPU is nice, but you can get that on a relatively inexpensive GPU if you go that route, or you could encode everything into AV1 at rest in a bulk operation. There are lots of options, so it mostly comes down to what you have access to, your budget, and your priorities.

That's almost my same exact setup. Pc parts in my house currently go me --> son ---> server. Servers got the ole trusty launch 1700 still going.

So, I currently have a Netgear ReadyNAS 314 with 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Intel Atom D2701 and 4GB RAM, running Debian 12, and since getting it I've been getting more into self hosting. What I have now is primarily too weak in the CPU and RAM department, but it could also use more HDDs. I'm aiming for 5-6 3.5 HDDs, 1 Nvme, 1 2.5" SSD.

What I'm currently running:

• Samba and NFS server

• OpenVPN

• Jellyseerr/Jellyfin/*arr stack

• Pangolin

• Dawarich

• Immich

• rsnapshot

• Homepage

And it's rather sluggish right now, and is almost filling up its 4GB of swap.

What I'd also like to be able to run/have:

• Nextcloud

• Transcoding (including ability to decode AV1, but preferably also encode)

• Anything else I may want to run (working on degoogling myself)

• ECC RAM (to prevent bitrot, I'm already running btrfs raid1 to prevent bitrot from faulty disks)

• 1x 2.5G ethernet

If possible I'd like to have some room for upgradeability. I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact, especially not very wide unless I can find a better place in my office for it.

I'm looking at a Jonsbo N1 chassis (17cm wide) , but I'm also following a Readynas 626 (19cm wide) in an online auction. Options:

Intel N100 board

Pros: cheap, low power, quicksync with av1 decode

Cons: boards with 2.5G ethernet have to be ordered from Aliexpress and have no support and uses the JMB585 chip that prevents low power C states, limited pcie lanes, no AV1 encode, not very upgradeable (1 DIMM, soldered CPU) , no ECC, I worry it may be too slow

Intel 13100

Pros: AV1 decode, quite fast, upgradeable

Cons: No ECC, relatively expensive, no AV1 encode

AMD 8500G

Pros: AV1 enc/dec, ECC, relatively fast, upgradeable

Cons: relatively expensive, not as low power as the 13100

Readynas 626

Pros: enterprise grade HW, less DIY, ECC, may be relatively cheap

Cons: high power for its performance (roughly that of the N100), wider (19cm) than a Jonsbo N1 (17cm), not upgradeable (no CPU or mobo swap), expensive DDR4 2133 ECC UDIMM, doesn't have M.2 but has a PCIE slot

I'd love to hear what you think about these options and whether you have other concerns that I haven't thought about.

Edit: I just now realized that the 13100 doesn't have AV1 encode in HW, that didn't come until Core Ultra. And wowee, suitable mITX mobos start at 400$ here! I think AMD is the realistic choice if I want to go for AV1 HW encode...

I have a jonsbo n1, do not buy it.

1. Cooling is insufficient. Something about the case layout makes the motherboard area not get enough ventilation and the supplied fan can't cool 5 disks, the chassis holding the disks doesn't allow enough air through.
2. Only room for half-height expansion card.
3. Cable routing is abysmal, with sharp edges.

So, I currently have a Netgear ReadyNAS 314 with 1 SSD, 3 HDDs, Intel Atom D2701 and 4GB RAM, running Debian 12, and since getting it I've been getting more into self hosting. What I have now is primarily too weak in the CPU and RAM department, but it could also use more HDDs. I'm aiming for 5-6 3.5 HDDs, 1 Nvme, 1 2.5" SSD.

What I'm currently running:

• Samba and NFS server

• OpenVPN

• Jellyseerr/Jellyfin/*arr stack

• Pangolin

• Dawarich

• Immich

• rsnapshot

• Homepage

And it's rather sluggish right now, and is almost filling up its 4GB of swap.

What I'd also like to be able to run/have:

• Nextcloud

• Transcoding (including ability to decode AV1, but preferably also encode)

• Anything else I may want to run (working on degoogling myself)

• ECC RAM (to prevent bitrot, I'm already running btrfs raid1 to prevent bitrot from faulty disks)

• 1x 2.5G ethernet

If possible I'd like to have some room for upgradeability. I'm aiming for a low power build, that should be rather compact, especially not very wide unless I can find a better place in my office for it.

I'm looking at a Jonsbo N1 chassis (17cm wide) , but I'm also following a Readynas 626 (19cm wide) in an online auction. Options:

Intel N100 board

Pros: cheap, low power, quicksync with av1 decode

Cons: boards with 2.5G ethernet have to be ordered from Aliexpress and have no support and uses the JMB585 chip that prevents low power C states, limited pcie lanes, no AV1 encode, not very upgradeable (1 DIMM, soldered CPU) , no ECC, I worry it may be too slow

Intel 13100

Pros: AV1 decode, quite fast, upgradeable

Cons: No ECC, relatively expensive, no AV1 encode

AMD 8500G

Pros: AV1 enc/dec, ECC, relatively fast, upgradeable

Cons: relatively expensive, not as low power as the 13100

Readynas 626

Pros: enterprise grade HW, less DIY, ECC, may be relatively cheap

Cons: high power for its performance (roughly that of the N100), wider (19cm) than a Jonsbo N1 (17cm), not upgradeable (no CPU or mobo swap), expensive DDR4 2133 ECC UDIMM, doesn't have M.2 but has a PCIE slot

I'd love to hear what you think about these options and whether you have other concerns that I haven't thought about.

Edit: I just now realized that the 13100 doesn't have AV1 encode in HW, that didn't come until Core Ultra. And wowee, suitable mITX mobos start at 400$ here! I think AMD is the realistic choice if I want to go for AV1 HW encode...