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SteamOS massively beats Windows on the Legion Go S

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    It will be very funny if Microsoft releases their handheld, and is instantly better with Linux.

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    I think the issue here is DirectX, so unless there's meaningful changes to how DX works internally, DXVK at this point can always be a step ahead with all the changes it can make without tech debt to worry about. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Series X despite being stronger than PS5 on paper, struggles to match performance in non zero count of games.

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      So far it seems to be an issue with the Legion itself. The ROG Ally sees no meaningful improvements with SteamOS.

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      As an ally owner, this is rather unfortunate

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        As an ally owner, this is rather unfortunate

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        Unfortunate why? It just means Asus sold you a pretty well optimized product.

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          Unfortunate why? It just means Asus sold you a pretty well optimized product.

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          I suppose there's no reason to take the time and remove windows from it

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            So far it seems to be an issue with the Legion itself. The ROG Ally sees no meaningful improvements with SteamOS.

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            Bullshit

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              If they make a Linux app for Game Pass & just let Proton do its thing, they could still make money off people that don’t use Windows.

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                If they make a Linux app for Game Pass & just let Proton do its thing, they could still make money off people that don’t use Windows.

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                Probably, but I know that at least in the past, their philosophy was to uphold Windows as the one gold standard at all costs, and I doubt that has changed.

                It might be one of those non-authentic quotes, but I heard that Steve Ballmer supposedly once said, that they'd rather have people pirate Windows instead of using another OS. No matter if that is an authentic statement - there is a real synergetic effect: If everyone is used to how Windows works at home (even if pirated there), then any potential employer will want to have Windows licenses for their IT and office stuff, which is where the main money lies. That's one of the reasons Microsoft has been so furiously anti-competition, because their main advantage is being the de-facto standard, and being the only proper gaming system became a part of that strategy, with attempts to further lock-in any gamers into their ecosystem if at all possible (some of which thankfully failed).

                So I think making an app for Game Pass for Linux won't be in their interest any time soon, unfortunately.

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                • thedemonbuer@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  What's wild to me is that these games were all developed to run on Windows, not SteamOS or any other Linux distro. This is with the games requiring a compatibility layer to run. Imagine what they could do if the games were made to run on SteamOS.

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                  That's all because Wine is not an emulator

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                    I suppose there's no reason to take the time and remove windows from it

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                    I reached the same conclusion. But at the end of the day it’s your system, if losing Gamepass doesn’t bother you go ahead and install SteamOS. I did see a few people say that it is somewhat buggy and that Bazzite is still better for the Ally.

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                      I'd like to see someone else reproduce the original test results. Seen the same set of data posted multiple times and honestly the numbers look like major outlier and either different settings or something wrong on wibdows.

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                        Yes but that's it right, they are not developing for Linux, Steam is doing it for the developer. There is nothing stopping Windows of saying sell exclusively through my Store, though I believe they have tried.

                        But I do understand were you are coming from Windows is definitely not the most ethical company and definitely they are not up for fair fight, what I'm trying to say is that I hope the game developers focus more in the mobile market and optimize the games more.

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                        No, you see. Corporations have no rights. People have rights. Corporations can have legal protections, but not rights.

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                          THIS IS THE KINDA NEWS I WANNA HEAR

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                            Tempted to get Steam OS on my laptop, gotten really used to it on my Steam Deck

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                              I hate to say it, but if MS released a competitor, it will probably outsell the Deck 5:1 regardless of quality, if only because of the advertising reach. Your average non-gamer has never heard of Steam. Everyone and their grandmother know MS and would therefore be more willing to get one for their kid.

                              Edit: I suppose I should explain a bit. People here are comparing Steam DAUs to console DAUs. That’s not the same as sales.

                              All of those users are already playing on a computer. Also, many of the most popular games on Steam I are free and low-spec. A lot of Steam users are not spenders.

                              Compare the 3.7 million Deck sales to the 2.2 million Switch 2 preorders (and the 150 million Switch 1 sales) before it even hit shelves. You can’t even buy a Deck in a store and you won’t see an ad for one. If MS makes a handheld, they’ll have billions at their disposal in advertising.

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                              150 million Switch 2 sales

                              Nope, that's Switch 1 sales, over its entire lifetime.

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                                150 million Switch 2 sales

                                Nope, that's Switch 1 sales, over its entire lifetime.

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                                I fixed it. It was 15 million projected in the first year, 2.2 million preorders. But I think that point still stands. The Deck has been out for a few years now.

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                                  Tempted to get Steam OS on my laptop, gotten really used to it on my Steam Deck

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                                  Unless there are major changes from the Deck version, I would STRONGLY advise not running SteamOS on any machine with sensitive data. You want a real login screen and, preferably, FDE for any laptop.

                                  If you like the Desktop Mode? That is just KDE Plasma. Basically every major distro has a build that uses it (and you can install it yourself otherwise). And Steam mode is literally just Steam Big Picture (with some minor tweaks).

                                  For a laptop? I am an old so I use Fedora. But I think everyone loves atomic distros these days so consider Bazzite.

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                                    Tempted to get Steam OS on my laptop, gotten really used to it on my Steam Deck

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                                    Steam OS is basically Arch Linux with KDE and Steam that autoruns in their special mode. It would even be easier to setup for yourself.

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