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PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google

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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    I'm talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

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    ::: spoiler spoiler
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    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

      I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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      They have. Nebula is biggest im aware of, floatplane is another.

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        The lift of running your own platform is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to creating your own video hosting platform.

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        Websites work very well and are scalable af. A plugged in person with a track record like that could go Web 2.0 and probably net more.

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          Guy's an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

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          I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently

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            Guy's an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

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            Really didn't like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn't realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn't exist. It's clear to me he didn't realize the cultural and political ramifications of that stuff in America because he was never really exposed to it growing up in Sweden, and he was a cocky 20 something that thought he knew everything.

            I hope these days he's realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.

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              I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently

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              I was surprised that the video was actually quite good.

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                The lift of running your own platform is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to creating your own video hosting platform.

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                It’s not that challenging with a partner to help manage infrastructure which even at his scale is not going to cost an obscene amount of money.

                Edit: there’s a very massive difference between a single content creator hosting their content and a site hosting everyone’s content like YouTube as well in terms of cost, infrastructure, security and management.

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                  I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?

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                  I just use down sub to pull the transcript from his video It's only 60% as annoying.

                  He has the normal privacy versus cost worries which are reasonably valid. Then he rambles on, plugs a product that he's shilling that's unrelated to the subject matter, says he's replacing Google search with a local LLM, does some hot takes on alternatives, does some reasonable takes on some alternatives.

                  To be honest, this is probably the least helpful de-googling video I've seen, other than the fact that he's a major influencer and is telling everyone they should be doing it.

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                  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                    I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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                    Putting a video file somewhere and letting 10,000 people watch it at the same time is no small feat.

                    You could probably get away with doing it on peer tube but it has no facilities to lock people out or make them pay.

                    Even if you don't use patreon for payments payments aren't free.

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                    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                      I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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                      It's harder then you think.

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                        It would be a larger influx of bullshit than even Reddit was able to pull off.

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                        I mean, I don't know of him now... he's way older and, seems significantly less immature than he was in the past, it's possible a good portion of his fanbase has also grown to be more tolerable.

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                          Websites work very well and are scalable af. A plugged in person with a track record like that could go Web 2.0 and probably net more.

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                          You are correct. Websites, the stack to supply video encoding, even scalability is a solved problem.

                          The hard work isn't technical, it's getting people onto your platform in the first place (marketing), getting people to continue using your platform (retention) and the perennial problems of SaaS evolving with other SaaS platforms (how many dev hours are you willing to eat trying to keep up with the Joneses?).

                          SaaS, and in this case, SaaS offering content, is a losing game. You will either lose your shirt, sell your business, or become entrenched in a position whose inertia is difficult to break. How much of any of those you are willing to take a firehose of is the question.

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                            Guy's an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

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                            “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”

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                              You are correct. Websites, the stack to supply video encoding, even scalability is a solved problem.

                              The hard work isn't technical, it's getting people onto your platform in the first place (marketing), getting people to continue using your platform (retention) and the perennial problems of SaaS evolving with other SaaS platforms (how many dev hours are you willing to eat trying to keep up with the Joneses?).

                              SaaS, and in this case, SaaS offering content, is a losing game. You will either lose your shirt, sell your business, or become entrenched in a position whose inertia is difficult to break. How much of any of those you are willing to take a firehose of is the question.

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                              It's not easy, but you're not guaranteed to end up

                              either lose your shirt, sell your business, or become entrenched in a position whose inertia is difficult to break

                              It depends on the personalities involved and the business model they go with.

                              Nebula has done really well with consistent growth as a premium offering where people pay one subscription fee to get ad-free videos from exclusively high-quality creators across a quote broad range of niches, in addition to bonus extras and Nebula Originals.

                              Dropout seems to have a lot of success with a range of mostly unscripted comedy, centred around a core cast of trusted comedic actors with a larger range of guests.

                              Floatplane, on the other hand, seems much less successful, probably owing to its business model being basically Patreon's, but only for video. Instead of the wide range of content you get for surprisingly reasonable amounts of Nebula and Dropout, Floatplane ends up looking very expensive if you want to support more than one or two creators. Plus the creators on it haven't got the same degree of trust; it ends up reeking of the sort of techbro vibes that people are explicitly trying to get away from.

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                                Cartman brah

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                                • candyman337@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                  Really didn't like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn't realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn't exist. It's clear to me he didn't realize the cultural and political ramifications of that stuff in America because he was never really exposed to it growing up in Sweden, and he was a cocky 20 something that thought he knew everything.

                                  I hope these days he's realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.

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                                  He also paid some Africans to hold an anti-semitic sign. To prove people will do things for money I think?

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                                    Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

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                                    It will stay up. Do you know how many YouTube videos there are badmouthing Google? They don't care so long as you're watching them.

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                                      How can he be done with Google and still posting YouTube videos?

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                                        Waiting for the episode where he finds out who owns YouTube 🫠

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                                        • metastatic@kbin.earthM [email protected]

                                          I'm loving Pewdie's redemption arc

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                                          That's going to be one long arc though

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