I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

It's very simple, valve is a gamer company. Epic is a money company. Every single thing each respective company does shows that. I'm not a bitch, I'm never going to let those Epic cunts have a penny of my money. Fucking with the games industry, fucking with gamers, locking exclusives, it's all bullshit & they can suck my cock

I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

Having healthy competition is a good thing and I've wished for a competitor to Steam for a long time until one day the monkey's paw curled and we got Epic Game Store. To sum it up:

• Epic actively tries to introduce exclusivity deals to PC, something that goes very much against the nature of the platform. It is something we're supposed to be above on PC and let console players deal with. PC gamers simply don't want fragmentation in the market. We hate all the different shitty launchers publishers are making for the same reason too.
• Epic has a very hostile attitude towards Linux. Their anti cheat for example by default detects the mere fact of using Linux as a hack. For a long time if their anti cheat was included it was an absolute no go on Linux. Their store also works like crap on Linux, if at all.
• EGS lacks necessities for then to call themselves a good store like reviews, good support and refund policies, ease of mod support, wishlists, etc.
• Their UI is just plain bad.

But the main point is the first one. If they bothered making a good store they wouldn't need to make most of PC gamers angry by introducing exclusivity deals, but they can't be bothered to do that, so they go for hostile competition instead at the detriment of the customers.

Sweeney (the CEO of Epic) says that he wants competition with Steam, but many of his actions point toward that he really just wants to be the guy at the top (ie, he wants to be the monopoly instead of Valve). He's taken a fair number of anti-consumerist stances, which vary from understandable to clearly anti-competitive.

Epic is known for making exclusivity deals with 3rd party studios in which Epic bribes the studio with money, and in exchange, the studio does not release their game on Steam for 1 year.

At several points, this occurred after a studio already said that they will release on Steam, and the studio would have to walk back and delete their Steam listing.

Iirc, at one point Epic bought out a studio and had them remove the Steam listing for an already-released game, causing the game to be unplayable for people who had already bought the game

Edit: this apparently happened twice (Unreal Tournament and Rocket League), but it appears that the games still work for the people who bought it. I think the concern was actually that Steam players would lose functionality due to not being supported anymore after the unlisting

The Epic Game Store released in a non-functional state, and development on it is extremely slow. The first impression of the broken store likely still influences many people's impression of the store. But it's still missing many features that many gamers want to see in a store.

There were various rumors when the store first launched that it contained spyware. My understanding is that those rumors never fully got disproven, especially since some of the claims were supported by at least some evidence

Epic does not support Linux, and Sweeney has openly said that he does not plan to support Linux until it becomes more popular. He did immediately jump on board with supporting Arm though, which caused a lot of Linux gamers to think that he just doesn't want to support Linux

Sweeney is a pretty abrasive person and iirc he made a lot of concerning statements on his social media. Several of them (as mentioned above) indicate that he wants to dethrone Valve so that he can be the monopoly instead

Overall, many gamers are in support of more competition in the game store space. Unfortunately, many gamers also think that Epic is an untrustworthy competitor, and they believe that Epic has a serious chance of making the gaming industry worse if they become more popular. As a result, many would prefer for Steam remain the monopoly rather than to take a bet on Epic.

I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

Meanwhile Valve pushing unrelated unregulated gambling to everyone, including children, through their case unboxing system

Counter Strike is a M rated game

Oh so they have no responsibility at all then. Might as well stop checking IDs when people enter casinos or buy alcohol because they’re not supposed to if they’re underaged.

They make a deliberately addictive mechanic that they know ruin peoples' life, and they also know they have a big young audience, but you think that’s fine? Shame of you, really.

It’s also in TF2 btw

And whatever you say, it’s still exploiting adults. In many countries, like France, casinos are legally obliged to detect addicted people, prevent minors from playing, and let people opt out legally, and never allow them to gamble afterwards. Valve blatantly doesn’t respect this and takes efforts to bypass the law. They got banned in Belgium and France, and used a legal loophole to avoid being banned in France.

You’re acting like a Valve fanboy. Be objective. Apart from that, Valve is an overall good company for the video games industry, but they act like a piece of shit in other places.

Parents should do their damn job and prevent their kids from playing what they arent supposed to, or teach them right from wrong.

Meanwhile Valve pushing unrelated unregulated gambling to everyone, including children, through their case unboxing system

I hadn't heard about a game being made unplayable after they bought it, that's seriously shitty. What game was it?

Newell is a billionaire like all the rest at 3.5B, but Sweeney is our savior fighting the good fight at 4.5B. Okay /s.

I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

Sweeney is not lionized as a false saviour.

Newell is.

I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

Epic doesn't support my operating system.

I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

Meanwhile Valve pushing unrelated unregulated gambling to everyone, including children, through their case unboxing system