TOR asking to run snowflake to help Iranians with internet access
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Here's the link to the docker docs
I am always empathetic to my brother man's needs. I think we have a moral obligation to help those in need. However, I am not always sympathetic with their actions. It can be quite the conundrum. Yet still, I have nothing but love in my heart for my brother man, no matter who they are or what they are, despite my disagreeance with their actions.
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People still use tor? There are a ton of negative articles about it
Name something better
I suspect a lot of the negatively is state funded
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I’m willing to do this but frankly tor intimidates me big time. I don’t know anything about it other than……. Yep that’s it.
I read through the mastodon post, and the project page, and cumulatively I didn’t get any answers that, like, make me feel better.
I assume this is a dark web node sort of thing? Is it safe for me to run the browser extension (idk shit about docker and don’t really want to learn rn), like I’m not putting a target on myself or anything? If yes to question 1, but no to question 2, what does put a target?
wrote last edited by [email protected]It is a proxy that connects people into Tor. It is designed to be hard to block since many people run snowflakes
Number of snowflakes > number of users
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Not a node, but a proxy. Entry node's IPs in Tor are publicly known, so they are easy to censor. With Snowflake you create a proxy (bridge) between a censored user and an entry node, and since your IP is not listed as a node, you help the user bypass the censorship.
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In theory, nope. But if the user is doing something bad, a prosecutor could argue you helped them to do so. I don't know about any case like this involving Snowflake, and I am not a lawyer. You could be a target if you were to host material, which is not the case with Snowflake.
In case it helps, I've been running the extension with no trouble that I'm aware of for a few years.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just don't run a snowflake in countries with heavily liability
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It's the best we have. What's your specific problem with it?
I’m not super deep into deep web stuff but I saw several articles online that talked about it being outdated, feds infiltrating it, stuff like that
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ike if there’s a risk of running alongside self-host software like Plex and jellyfin
I don't see why there should be any problem, as they use different ports. Plus I've had no troubles running a Jellyfin and Navidrome instances, plus some other self-hosted services alongisde Snowflake.
I'm really glad to have helped you :). Tor is very mystified, but an awesome tool, and very neat from a technical point of view. In case you haven't seen them, I recommend these 2 amazing videos from Computerphile: How TOR works and TOR Hidden Services
Thank you for your explanation and info. Will be setting this up later tonight.
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People still use tor? There are a ton of negative articles about it
So you read some articles but don’t have an understanding of what the weaknesses are? That doesn’t seem like a solid foundation to form an opinion on.
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So you read some articles but don’t have an understanding of what the weaknesses are? That doesn’t seem like a solid foundation to form an opinion on.
Several years ago when I was a little interested in the whole concept I read into the articles but I haven’t looked into these things since. It’s just what I remember from reading them years ago (around 2016) - that vulnerabilities in the tor browser have been exploited by feds, that they’ve managed to infiltrate nodes or some such, things like that. But the articles are probably still up there for anyone who’s genuinely interested in this
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Several years ago when I was a little interested in the whole concept I read into the articles but I haven’t looked into these things since. It’s just what I remember from reading them years ago (around 2016) - that vulnerabilities in the tor browser have been exploited by feds, that they’ve managed to infiltrate nodes or some such, things like that. But the articles are probably still up there for anyone who’s genuinely interested in this
You are correct, they have infiltrated exit nodes, but it is still one of the most secure privacy tools available. If you are Al Quaeda, don’t use tor. If you are an average person preserving their privacy or subverting censorship, use tor.
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I am always empathetic to my brother man's needs. I think we have a moral obligation to help those in need. However, I am not always sympathetic with their actions. It can be quite the conundrum. Yet still, I have nothing but love in my heart for my brother man, no matter who they are or what they are, despite my disagreeance with their actions.
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People still use tor? There are a ton of negative articles about it
Yeah, it's still in use. It's still slow. I think the real take away is that if you're going to do things that are going to get you in true State trouble tor is not a reasonable solution.
If you're not doing something to draw the ire of a government agency, It's reasonably safe. Other than they fact that you are passing tor data, no one in your house or your ISP or Google has any idea what you're actually doing.
I think one of the big problems is that there's not so many tor nodes that a well-funded agency couldn't stand up enough nodes to catch your entire conversation.
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ike if there’s a risk of running alongside self-host software like Plex and jellyfin
I don't see why there should be any problem, as they use different ports. Plus I've had no troubles running a Jellyfin and Navidrome instances, plus some other self-hosted services alongisde Snowflake.
I'm really glad to have helped you :). Tor is very mystified, but an awesome tool, and very neat from a technical point of view. In case you haven't seen them, I recommend these 2 amazing videos from Computerphile: How TOR works and TOR Hidden Services
wrote last edited by [email protected]Welp.
I watched several videos in addition to those and feel both better and not, I do understand the simplified analogies in the linked stuff, and they are helpful, as were some of the related content.
I kinda sorta understand the technical stuff, sort of. I’m not in a tech field or anything..
I’m going to keep it there regardless of the negative hype because you never know when I’ll need others to do the same. Im not doing anything wrong so it’s whatever.
I’m up to 10
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And here you are with your peanut gallery. Nice.
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Here's the link to the docker docs
Sounds more like Nato and the western elite want to get in to Iran's information sphere, than to let Iranians access western internet and be 'free'. Iranians are during external attacks against their nation, protected from the information war - just like borders protect from attacks. I'm not assisting the Western elite. I'm out..
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Sounds more like Nato and the western elite want to get in to Iran's information sphere, than to let Iranians access western internet and be 'free'. Iranians are during external attacks against their nation, protected from the information war - just like borders protect from attacks. I'm not assisting the Western elite. I'm out..
I'm sure they are glad they are protected from the free information war and that you, in true solidarity, are decidedly not helping them to gain free information access. 🫡
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Wtf are you talking about, nobody is climbing anywhere. By running snowflake, you are offering a piece of infrastructure that other people can use, it's not specific to the Iran. They can't install it themselves if the local internet is censored, that's the whole point of this.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Let the Iranians, many of whom live outside their country, do it, after all, if I think so, it is necessary for their people! Once again, do not meddle where you do not need to! THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT WITHOUT YOU!!
P.S. And yes, I know the technical side, but here the moment is more political.
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Let the Iranians, many of whom live outside their country, do it, after all, if I think so, it is necessary for their people! Once again, do not meddle where you do not need to! THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT WITHOUT YOU!!
P.S. And yes, I know the technical side, but here the moment is more political.
offering a not blacklisted IP is not meddling.
you are wrong also about that this is "for their people". you sound an awfull lot like a facist.
