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Video games spending by young Americans is dropping sharply, report suggests

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    Older games are better plus gamers can play all our existing games.

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      Tbf, games were $60 for 30+ years...

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      GameCube games were $50 or $20 for player's choice titles

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        What are you talking about? They're both estimates extrapolated from samples. I think most statisticians would prefer stratified sampling over one company's payrolls processing, but whatever. Maybe chuds would argue that ADP is so much more efficient/accurate because it's outside of the "swamp" of govt, it's certainly an independent data point. I mean I agree with you in that BLS is not reliable either. Real time economics is hard.

        If you honestly preferred ADP all along and will continue to espouse it's superiority when it next contradicts your view rather than confirming it (as it will because data are noisy) then more power to you.

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        Well now you've met a statistician, a person with an Econ degree, specialization in Econometrics who is telling you the BLS numbers have been garbage for 2 years, based off of how many revisions they have to keep doing, and the magnitude of those adjustments.

        I've been a professional data analyst at multiple large companies for years, I'm not going to explain this further unless you want to pay me for the full 40 page methodology breakdown.

        Real time economics is not hard for me, it was my career until I retired.

        Damn near every single measurable metric in the US economy beyond what's in the most easy to consume, most non specialist oriented media is screaming that everything is going tits up.

        Hey when was the last time the Fed had to significantly jump into the Repo market to bail it out?

        Oh, right, it was this past week.

        I'm not going to bother to list out every single indicator/methodology I consider because 1) I'd break the lemmy comment post character limit (its 10k, btw) and 2) I'm used to being paid for such detail.

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          Well now you've met a statistician, a person with an Econ degree, specialization in Econometrics who is telling you the BLS numbers have been garbage for 2 years, based off of how many revisions they have to keep doing, and the magnitude of those adjustments.

          I've been a professional data analyst at multiple large companies for years, I'm not going to explain this further unless you want to pay me for the full 40 page methodology breakdown.

          Real time economics is not hard for me, it was my career until I retired.

          Damn near every single measurable metric in the US economy beyond what's in the most easy to consume, most non specialist oriented media is screaming that everything is going tits up.

          Hey when was the last time the Fed had to significantly jump into the Repo market to bail it out?

          Oh, right, it was this past week.

          I'm not going to bother to list out every single indicator/methodology I consider because 1) I'd break the lemmy comment post character limit (its 10k, btw) and 2) I'm used to being paid for such detail.

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          Ah an economist, say no more fam.

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            Maybe they can ask their AI to inspect the size of everyone's nose? Maybe that's the trick to get us to buy more AI chips in our games and TVs and phones and cars and in our fruit probably. There's gotta be AI in our food somewhere.

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            We are ripe for another Luddite movement with this giant AI grift the Tech Bros are forcing on us.

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              Older games are better plus gamers can play all our existing games.

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              This is why publisher's are trying to derail "Stop Killing Games."

              When they are done with a a game the don't WANT you to continue to play and enjoy it....

              ...they want you to forget about it and buy the next product they have and financially engage with the microtransaction ecosystem

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              • lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksL [email protected]

                We can't justify the price. The end. That's it.

                I was super interested in the Dune game, then they decided to not participate in the stream sale. Okay. Too bad. Life goes on. Get fucked, greedy devs.

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                I will say though, if you're the kind of guy who likes MMOs and RPGs (like me) you'll love dune.

                I used to play a ton of RuneScape back in the day, and recently I've been playing Eve and Star Citizen but dune is just a better game in every possible way than those three. I've been so obsessed that I had to uninstall it this week so I could get to sleep on time for work haha

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                  Yes, I am using Arch btw 😜🤣
                  Sorry but I couldn't resist the opportunity 😁

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                  Nice! I am too, I'll have to check out the modpack loader thingy that sounds fantastic!

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                    Funny how that happens when people don't have any money.

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                      Depression has me not so interested in playing games anymore. Reading instead. Gaming is losing its magic for me. I’m 36.

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                      It's fun how when you could really most use a reliable distraction you start to not be able to find joy in things you used to.

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                        Can't afford a home, holiday and now videogames.

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                          I'm not young or American, but I can tell gaming has been changing. I can't even remember what was the last "AAA" game I bought, because it must have been a couple of years ago.

                          Most games I buy are 40€ connoisseur titles or 20€ indie games. I don't hear about any "must-play" AAA titles through the grapewine these days. I do hear about interesting indie stuff all the time, though. Most of the 60€+ games I hear about are kind of niche stuff.

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                          Any AAA game I got in the last decade I waited till it was dirt cheap. Red Dead 2 was the last one I bought and played through was maybe 15-20 bucks or something?

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                            It's a two part answer.

                            One, gamers have less money to spend, along with everyone else.

                            Two, expensive AAA title games these days tend to be shit, from a graphics, code, community, and content standpoint. If you want good games, cheaper is usually better.

                            Last AAA title game I bought was Borderlands 3, and I don't see myself buying anymore in the next two years or so.

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                              Funny how that happens when people don't have any money.

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                              And when so much of gaming is shit.

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                              • lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksL [email protected]

                                We can't justify the price. The end. That's it.

                                I was super interested in the Dune game, then they decided to not participate in the stream sale. Okay. Too bad. Life goes on. Get fucked, greedy devs.

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                                Eh. I know what all PvP centric games turn into unless you're willing to devote a fuckton of hours into it and get into a great guild. I'll pass.

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                                  In addition to other's comments, I think that we just have enough good games by now that a lot of people can find a game they enjoy enough to sink hundreds or thousands of hours into. Minecraft, Factorio, Satisfactory, Hollow Knight, Elden Ring, etc.

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                                    Nice! I am too, I'll have to check out the modpack loader thingy that sounds fantastic!

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                                    It is here: https://modding-openmw.gitlab.io/umo/

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                                      I still play multiplayer, but on games that still support community servers like Minecraft, Enshrouded, Arma 3, Space Engineers..

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                                      How has Enshrouded been doing? I haven't been able to get on my PC in almost a year and only got to play it on initial release.

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                                        And when so much of gaming is shit.

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                                        Honestly, this has been a great year for games. The past 5 years have been pretty great.

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                                          GameCube games were $50 or $20 for player's choice titles

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                                          Yeah there has always been sales and "greatest hits" type shit, but go back and look at how much they were charging for the NES and Super Mario Bros. 3 back when they came out. Then adjust them for inflation.

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