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  • C [email protected]

    RustDesk (rustdesk.com) is open source, and similar to TeamViewer, and has paid plans, including a paid self hosted option.

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    #6

    It does need a server though. Either the centralized official one you can selfhost one.

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    • J [email protected]

      VNC is dead. I'd try to talk them off that if it's a requirement.

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      #7

      VNC is dead.

      How so?

      There are a number of software packages in Debian that implement VNC. To grab one random example, the last commit to their git repo was last month.

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      • H [email protected]

        It does need a server though. Either the centralized official one you can selfhost one.

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        #8

        Actually, (and I wasn't aware of this until you mentioned it, so thank you), it does support serverless connections:

        https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/wiki/FAQ#i-only-use-rustdesk-for-a-few-devices-on-my-local-network-with-no-internet-connectivity-can-i-still-use-rustdesk-with-direct-ip-access

        So I think between cloud server, self hosted server and direct IP, OP should be covered.

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        • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

          VNC is dead.

          How so?

          There are a number of software packages in Debian that implement VNC. To grab one random example, the last commit to their git repo was last month.

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          VNC has long been abandoned by the engineering world. It's inefficient, it has no transport security, and the implementations are very subjective.

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          • J [email protected]

            VNC has long been abandoned by the engineering world. It's inefficient, it has no transport security, and the implementations are very subjective.

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            The last time I used a commercial VPS, I'm pretty sure it used VNC to provide console access.

            The VNC software I linked to above appears to support TLS. If TLS isn't sufficient transport security, then most Internet-using software is going to be in trouble.

            I'm not sure what you mean by subjective.

            I haven't looked at the VNC protocol for a while, but I don't think that it imposes any terrible inefficiencies. A couple of decades back, I needed to implement something quick-and-dirty similar to VNC, and went with rendering window contents and handling dragging of windows locally, which I don't believe that VNC can do (or didn't then) but IIRC VNC has a tile cache, which, if intelligently used, should avoid most traffic. Dunno if it can deal well with efficiently rendering visual effects.

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            • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

              The last time I used a commercial VPS, I'm pretty sure it used VNC to provide console access.

              The VNC software I linked to above appears to support TLS. If TLS isn't sufficient transport security, then most Internet-using software is going to be in trouble.

              I'm not sure what you mean by subjective.

              I haven't looked at the VNC protocol for a while, but I don't think that it imposes any terrible inefficiencies. A couple of decades back, I needed to implement something quick-and-dirty similar to VNC, and went with rendering window contents and handling dragging of windows locally, which I don't believe that VNC can do (or didn't then) but IIRC VNC has a tile cache, which, if intelligently used, should avoid most traffic. Dunno if it can deal well with efficiently rendering visual effects.

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              #11

              I don't mean to be rude, but the last time you used a "commercial VPS" must have been a decade ago.

              Get with the times.

              There is not a single datacenter provider on this planet who uses VNC as anything. Every major player is working towards Zero-Trust AT BEST, so you wouldn't even be able to leave a weird VNC port open to the internet even if you wanted to without an IDS going off.

              I don't want to spend time digging into your outdated dumbshit, so I'll just slap it down: AWS, Google, Azure, Cloudflare...just name anyone. NOT WORKING WITH VNC.

              Get current. Nobody does this old ass shit anymore. Sorry. It's dead as fuck, guy.

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              • J [email protected]

                VNC is dead. I'd try to talk them off that if it's a requirement.

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                #12

                You should probably let RealVNC know, because they don't seem to have got your memo.

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                • J [email protected]

                  I don't mean to be rude, but the last time you used a "commercial VPS" must have been a decade ago.

                  Get with the times.

                  There is not a single datacenter provider on this planet who uses VNC as anything. Every major player is working towards Zero-Trust AT BEST, so you wouldn't even be able to leave a weird VNC port open to the internet even if you wanted to without an IDS going off.

                  I don't want to spend time digging into your outdated dumbshit, so I'll just slap it down: AWS, Google, Azure, Cloudflare...just name anyone. NOT WORKING WITH VNC.

                  Get current. Nobody does this old ass shit anymore. Sorry. It's dead as fuck, guy.

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                  I was mostly with you right up until paragraph/linebreak/whatever 4. Took a pretty civil discussion and went bonkers. Put down the keyboard, go rub one out, and relax my dude.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Actually, (and I wasn't aware of this until you mentioned it, so thank you), it does support serverless connections:

                    https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/wiki/FAQ#i-only-use-rustdesk-for-a-few-devices-on-my-local-network-with-no-internet-connectivity-can-i-still-use-rustdesk-with-direct-ip-access

                    So I think between cloud server, self hosted server and direct IP, OP should be covered.

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                    #14

                    Wow! I didn't know

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                    • J [email protected]

                      I don't mean to be rude, but the last time you used a "commercial VPS" must have been a decade ago.

                      Get with the times.

                      There is not a single datacenter provider on this planet who uses VNC as anything. Every major player is working towards Zero-Trust AT BEST, so you wouldn't even be able to leave a weird VNC port open to the internet even if you wanted to without an IDS going off.

                      I don't want to spend time digging into your outdated dumbshit, so I'll just slap it down: AWS, Google, Azure, Cloudflare...just name anyone. NOT WORKING WITH VNC.

                      Get current. Nobody does this old ass shit anymore. Sorry. It's dead as fuck, guy.

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                      #15

                      We use VNC as we can record the sessions easily for later priof / discussion with our customers.

                      It's in a VPN tunnel of course.

                      But of course, we also don't use Google, AWS, etc as they're not secure enough for us and we have our own SOCs

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                        My company wants a solution for remote access, something like VNC. I'd like to support open source developers, any suggestions for something paid that can work without a centralized server?

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                        KasmVNC?

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                        • T [email protected]

                          My company wants a solution for remote access, something like VNC. I'd like to support open source developers, any suggestions for something paid that can work without a centralized server?

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                          I don't have a recommendation for you, but if you exhaust your leads there is a large comparrison table with all kinds (and ages) of remote access solutions that you could search against for your criteria (open source, supported, etc) here:

                          Comparison of remote desktop software on wikipedia

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                          • J [email protected]

                            I don't mean to be rude, but the last time you used a "commercial VPS" must have been a decade ago.

                            Get with the times.

                            There is not a single datacenter provider on this planet who uses VNC as anything. Every major player is working towards Zero-Trust AT BEST, so you wouldn't even be able to leave a weird VNC port open to the internet even if you wanted to without an IDS going off.

                            I don't want to spend time digging into your outdated dumbshit, so I'll just slap it down: AWS, Google, Azure, Cloudflare...just name anyone. NOT WORKING WITH VNC.

                            Get current. Nobody does this old ass shit anymore. Sorry. It's dead as fuck, guy.

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                            Shittiest post of the week in the Fedivere, up there ↑.

                            If you are going to be this shitty, dismissive and misinformative, you can head back to Twitter.

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                            • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                              KasmVNC?

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                              I am not going to go as far as to say 'VNC is dead', it does have use cases. I selfhost two apps that use the KasmVNC, and while that's cool and all, and it gets the job done, I'd have to say it's rather clunky. This all could be because I'm dense and using it wrong, but say I fire up an app that uses KasmVNC. To log in, I have to copy the password to the PC clipboard, paste it into the KasmVNC clipboard, and then right click in the app password dialogue box and paste it from KasmVNC clipboard. I can't just copy the password to the PC clipboard and paste it into the app I'm trying to run with KasmVNC. Because of this, it doesn't recognize Bitwarden inputs either. Other than that, VNC does work, but boy I'd try to avoid it in a corporate setting.

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