real reasons why people DON'T use opensource:
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real reasons why people DON'T use opensource:
- bugs in apps with no community on irc/discord/matrix/xmpp to ask about (yes, i talk about you @libreoffice )
- assholes in communities if such exist (yes i talk about archlinux and @godot )
- enshittification and slowly going back to not being opensource (yes i talk about @mozilla )
- and if all of the above combined it just creates resistance against opensourcesmall opensource can do nothing until big opensource does the step…
Open source software is a minor miracle. I consider the people who give away their hard work saints. That doesn’t mean they can’t also be assholes. We have a bunch of different distributions of multiple full-featured operating systems. Credit where credit is due.
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real reasons why people DON'T use opensource:
- bugs in apps with no community on irc/discord/matrix/xmpp to ask about (yes, i talk about you @libreoffice )
- assholes in communities if such exist (yes i talk about archlinux and @godot )
- enshittification and slowly going back to not being opensource (yes i talk about @mozilla )
- and if all of the above combined it just creates resistance against opensourcesmall opensource can do nothing until big opensource does the step…
*I need money and I made this.
I don't like capitalism, but I am forced to live with it. I idealize open source software; but if I made a thing nobody else thought of, I'm sorry but I'm going to try and get paid so I don't have to live in the gutter.
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@lukecooperatus yeah? i am on codeberg for years and got only 1 star which was almost forced cause it was my friend which forked one project to help me…
What do you even make? Is it even good?
Have you even tried to share it in open source communities and explain what it does, why it is good, and how it differs from competitors. Contributors come from users. Users come for good software that they are aware of.
Do you get contributors on GitHub? Is stars about validation or actual engagement from users. Why do stars even mean anything?
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real reasons why people DON'T use opensource:
- bugs in apps with no community on irc/discord/matrix/xmpp to ask about (yes, i talk about you @libreoffice )
- assholes in communities if such exist (yes i talk about archlinux and @godot )
- enshittification and slowly going back to not being opensource (yes i talk about @mozilla )
- and if all of the above combined it just creates resistance against opensourcesmall opensource can do nothing until big opensource does the step…
Looks like bait mait
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Let's address your points:
- bugs in apps with no community on irc/discord/matrix/xmpp to ask about (yes, i talk about you @libreoffice )
Have you ever tried asking for help on a closed source software vendor's support forum? More often than not, it's either dumb boilerplate that makes you feel like a mentally challenged newbie ("Try reinstalling. If the issue persists, try rebooting") or it's crickets because the vendor won't communicate on its products' flaws. As for other users, they're just as clueless as you because they don't have access to anymore information than you.
At least if you find a bug in open source software and you have the programming chops, you can either check the code to see what might be going on, or fix it yourself.
- assholes in communities if such exist (yes i talk about archlinux and @godot )
There are assholes in every community.
enshittification and slowly going back to not being opensource (yes i talk about @mozilla )
Enshittification is first and foremost a phenomenon that happens when a company tries to maximize its profits at everybody else's expense. As such, it occurs much, MUCH more often in proprietary, for-profit software.
Also, way to pick the wrong example:
Firstly Mozilla is its own special kind of stupid.
Secondly, say what you will, but for all Mozilla's, Firefox' and Thunderbird's faults, you can still download a good browser and a good email client for free after more than a quarter of a century. Which software vendor can you say the same thing of?
Opensource is not perfect. Nothing ever is. But always remember it's mostly composed of people who code for free and give their work away. IMHO, the right way forward is to support the good and ignore the bad, and pitch in and contribute if you can, rather than rant.
Thank you!
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Looks like bait mait
wrote last edited by [email protected]"YOUR COMMON, MOST AVARAGE, MOST REGULAR AVARAGEST PERSON DOES NOT USE FUCKING LIBRE OFFICE SINCE THERE IS NO COMMUNITY ON IRC"
Sentence written by the utterly deranged. -
I was wondering about singeling out Godot here as well, it's such a wholesome project, imho
Godot had some tankie on the team with spicy hot takes but IIRC he has been removed.
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@lukecooperatus @libreoffice IRC is almost DEAD. if anyone responds there it's a reply after like a WEEK and i don't think a normal person specially will keep computer on for a week just to get a reply from support…
wrote last edited by [email protected]My friend.
Normal people don't use irc. Normal people have NEVER used irc. Fuck I know bash.org top 100 by heart but I have not used irc for more than maybe an hour. -
Open source software is a minor miracle. I consider the people who give away their hard work saints. That doesn’t mean they can’t also be assholes. We have a bunch of different distributions of multiple full-featured operating systems. Credit where credit is due.
True. Like some of the heads of lemmy are tankies who let russian and anti ukranian propaganda with mass murder denialism run rampant on their .ml instance.
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Meh, I don't think I agree. Sure, these things are problems and sure they are a problem in OS spaces (the last one obs only with OS) but
- projects have the right to choose what communication systems they use (most of them are unpaid volunteers doing this in their free time I'm pretty certain), yes, some are more cumbersome than others for different sets of people, it sure would be cool if they'd use the one I/you like. But that goes for literally any project / product?
- toxic people exist in all communities, if moreso in OS than (random example) Star Wars fandom, is very debatable. How toxic are the Microsoft forums? I honestly have no idea.
- Mozilla doing what Mozilla does, yeah, it's a meme at this point. Whatever.
small opensource can do nothing until big opensource does the step…
Why? Small open source projects totally can use "modern"(tm) communication channels, have nice communities and don't enshitify. Why would they not because big project (in your opinion) aren't doing it? I overall have super good experiences with almost all OS forums I've ever been to, Manjaro, Inscape, Krita, Godot, KDE, Bazzite, Fedora and so many others.
I have issue with krita that shuts down wayland on gnome whenever you try dragging a layer with a tablet. It has been unfixed for so long and its a known bug. Other than that krita is incredible and matches or beats competition.
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*I need money and I made this.
I don't like capitalism, but I am forced to live with it. I idealize open source software; but if I made a thing nobody else thought of, I'm sorry but I'm going to try and get paid so I don't have to live in the gutter.
You are and should be compensated for your work and ideas.
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*I need money and I made this.
I don't like capitalism, but I am forced to live with it. I idealize open source software; but if I made a thing nobody else thought of, I'm sorry but I'm going to try and get paid so I don't have to live in the gutter.
wrote last edited by [email protected]False dichotomy. You can get paid for writing open source software. That was my entire career. It's a choice; a matter of values and priorities. Not every byte I wrote was open source, especially in the beginning, but it's not hard to go that way, and thrive.
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Open source software is a minor miracle. I consider the people who give away their hard work saints. That doesn’t mean they can’t also be assholes. We have a bunch of different distributions of multiple full-featured operating systems. Credit where credit is due.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Many of the developers who worked on your favorite and most critical FOSS projects got paid. PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPMENT! It is a fantastic model that is fair to everyone and enriches humanity.
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real reasons why people DON'T use opensource:
- bugs in apps with no community on irc/discord/matrix/xmpp to ask about (yes, i talk about you @libreoffice )
- assholes in communities if such exist (yes i talk about archlinux and @godot )
- enshittification and slowly going back to not being opensource (yes i talk about @mozilla )
- and if all of the above combined it just creates resistance against opensourcesmall opensource can do nothing until big opensource does the step…
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In proprietary stuff the bugs just don't get fixed, ever. And you can't ask
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In proprietary stuff there aren't even communities and if you try to make one nintendo puts you in prison
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Okay this is really impossible in proprietary stuff as there it can't get worse (wait, no, adobe exists)
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