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The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

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  • K [email protected]

    It's not just for the hell of it!

    Invalid votes will be removed when it's time for the final tally, so the initiative needs a solid buffer to still he over a million after.

    There's been a talk of some people using bots to inflate the numbers in a misguided attempt to help the initiative, so every vote is still very welcome.

    Also, I kinda want to see just how high Finland can go above the threshold.

    Tell your friends!

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the game industry isn't also using bots to inflate the numbers to make people procrastinating not feel the need to contribute and make the petition look less valid.

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      I wouldn't be surprised if the game industry isn't also using bots to inflate the numbers to make people procrastinating not feel the need to contribute and make the petition look less valid.

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      Eh, doubtful. The initiative got a shitton of extra coverage as it was nearing/reached the goal. They would have preferred if it went a lot slower.

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        Eh, doubtful. The initiative got a shitton of extra coverage as it was nearing/reached the goal. They would have preferred if it went a lot slower.

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        Major game publishers aren't known for their good ideas.

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          Well when the choice is anti consumer, too fucking bad.

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          • R [email protected]

            …that’s not white knighting. I said they gave a bad example and provided a better one. Are you sure you know what that term means?

            Are you really that upset about the other conversation that you spent time scrolling through my comments to try and find the vaguest opportunity to try and use my own comment against me? Yeesh. Have a nice Monday dude.

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            And I and the other guy just said that you misunderstood the original comment. You're the one who doubled down after the first guy.

            Me making a sarcastic comment because you doubled down on the first guy by just posting a quote of the original comment isn't white knighting. It's just a conversation. If that's white knighting, then 95% of all internet communication is some form of white knighting. And I can think of much better words to describe the YouTube comments section (and I bet you can, too).

            Anyways, hope your Monday wasn't as hot, humid, and disappointing as mine and I think everybody in this thread can agree that Larian isn't Ubisoft or Activision, the world is a better place because of that, and the "live service industry" can go suck a big one and keep shaking in their boots.

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              I think people are overestimating what this petition is going to do. It will likely just end up in a response from the EU listing pros and cons but effectively saying "can't really do anything about it, sorry!". It's still good, even MMOs have server software gaming companies could release if legislation forced them instead of causing fandoms to die. Games are culture. They may also be entertainment, but that's culture as well. But I wouldn't hold out hope.

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                "but black dynamite!....... i sell drugs to the community!"

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                • D [email protected]

                  Copyright was invented so artists would be able to sell their art, and more art would be made.

                  When copyright is protected on a product that's no longer sold, less art is made.

                  When a copyright holder stops selling their art, copyright protections should immediately cease, and they should be responsible for copyright obligations - releasing the source code to the public. Use it or lose it!

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                  Pretty sure it was so publishers (printing press owners) could have a guaranteed profit. Those two things (publisher and artist profits) were correlated at the time. Not so much anymore. Streaming/subscription mentality is like planned obsolescence for IP.

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                    This is the most level headed approach to IP I've seen. If you're not willing to use the property you forfeit it. It's a common contact for licensing rights for movies that forces a studio to make a movie or lose rights. That way people can't squat on a licence to prevent others using it.

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                    The same thing should apply to private property, especially in cities.

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                      #196

                      Yup, that's correct. What about it?

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                      • T [email protected]

                        I think people are overestimating what this petition is going to do. It will likely just end up in a response from the EU listing pros and cons but effectively saying "can't really do anything about it, sorry!". It's still good, even MMOs have server software gaming companies could release if legislation forced them instead of causing fandoms to die. Games are culture. They may also be entertainment, but that's culture as well. But I wouldn't hold out hope.

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                        I think forcing MMOs to release software is a bit much.

                        Opted for large scaled systems. It's more than just simple software. There is a ton of infrastructure and proprietary solutioning that goes into it. That's likely used for other games as well.

                        It may not even be possible to release the software because it is not just software and the resources to prepare it for releasing may not be available.

                        However, if a game company shut down their servers, they should not be allowed to prevent other people from try to reverse engineer and make their own servers.

                        Single player and local games 100% though should not be allowed to be killed.

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