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Organic Maps Forked Over Governance Concerns: CoMaps is Born

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  • swelter_spark@reddthat.comS [email protected]

    The only difficulty I find with Magic Earth is if you type in the address differently than it is in the system, it doesn't always find it. "Highway" vs "hwy", etc. But it's way better than OSM+, whose search is borderline unusable.

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    Exactly, it isn't permissive (like OSM, as you said). There should be some natural language research here.

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      aaaand uninstalled

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        Switching is possible now, if you want. CoMaps builds have been released for a while, and are in f-droid I think since today? I have no idea about Google play store.

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        I can't find it on fdroid.

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        • makingstuffforfun@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

          I can't find it on fdroid.

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          I had to go to the F-droid setting, click on Include Anti-Features, then enable 'Tethered Network Services' for it to show up in the F-droid search.

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          • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

            I had to go to the F-droid setting, click on Include Anti-Features, then enable 'Tethered Network Services' for it to show up in the F-droid search.

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            Thank you!! I have it now.

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            • makingstuffforfun@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

              Thank you!! I have it now.

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              Glad to be of help and that you're up and running! 😄

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              • makingstuffforfun@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                I can't find it on fdroid.

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                I just saw this post but didn't look any further into it than reading the title.

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                  Is this ai?

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                  This is patrick

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                    @pineapple @lewdian69 does it have traffic? Who provides that data?

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                    Thanks for asking i've been wondering myself actually. I looked it up and organic maps doesn't actually do traffic, although magic earth does (another not foss but apparenty privacy respecting map app that uses osm) It says it's just crowdsourced from the general public who uses magic earth (in an anonimous way, I guess there are enough magic earth uses for it to work since Some people say it works really well. (although others say it doesn't you should probably try it for yourself.)

                    On another note that I also found from my research just then, traffic knowing apps don't actually improve travel times but they do make previously congested places more congested.
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                    source 1

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                    Edit: Magic earth is not foss so there is no way to varify that the app is actually respecting your privacy like it says it is, i'm sorry for any confusion.

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                      Thanks for asking i've been wondering myself actually. I looked it up and organic maps doesn't actually do traffic, although magic earth does (another not foss but apparenty privacy respecting map app that uses osm) It says it's just crowdsourced from the general public who uses magic earth (in an anonimous way, I guess there are enough magic earth uses for it to work since Some people say it works really well. (although others say it doesn't you should probably try it for yourself.)

                      On another note that I also found from my research just then, traffic knowing apps don't actually improve travel times but they do make previously congested places more congested.
                      sources:

                      source 1

                      source 2

                      source 3

                      Edit: Magic earth is not foss so there is no way to varify that the app is actually respecting your privacy like it says it is, i'm sorry for any confusion.

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                      @pineapple I use Waze and the traffic info are very very usefull, especially when there are closed road or accidents. I know, it's Waze and I'd love to be able to use OsmAnd (which I use for other purposes), but the traffic info that has Waze is the best so far (at least where I live)

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                      • suoko@feddit.itS [email protected]

                        I hope they will make the destination search much better, it's almost unusable now, and unintuitive.
                        Regarding traffic data, how much could it be per user per year, something like this
                        https://www.mapbox.com/traffic-data ?

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                        Destination search in all the OSM based maps is a challenge. The Latin letter transliteration only applies to large features. So if I want to find an address in a country try that doesn't use Latin script, I literally need a keyboard in that language or do a lot of cut and paste from Google Translate. My address never, ever works on OSM. Gets the wrong street, can't even handle house/building numbers. Works fine on Google.

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                          This is patrick

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                          Swayze, Stewart or from Bikini Bottom?

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                            Magic Earth is open source and has traffic/crowd sourced stuff like Waze

                            Edit: Sorry guys, I don't know why I thought Magic Earth was open source. Really looking forward to this if they get traffic data in there!

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                            As closed source as it can get.

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                            • suoko@feddit.itS [email protected]

                              I hope they will make the destination search much better, it's almost unusable now, and unintuitive.
                              Regarding traffic data, how much could it be per user per year, something like this
                              https://www.mapbox.com/traffic-data ?

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                              I bet it wouldn't be much.

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                                Destination search in all the OSM based maps is a challenge. The Latin letter transliteration only applies to large features. So if I want to find an address in a country try that doesn't use Latin script, I literally need a keyboard in that language or do a lot of cut and paste from Google Translate. My address never, ever works on OSM. Gets the wrong street, can't even handle house/building numbers. Works fine on Google.

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                                Honestly, that just seems normal to me. If you’re looking for an adress in a foreign language, it seems obvious that you’d have to type it in that language. I don’t really understand why people would expect their map to do it for them.

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                                  Should have named it libre map.

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                                  • drly@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                                    Good to see devs willing to do the work needed in order to draw hard lines on the capitalist leeches that divert money away from the project. I am looking forward to the traffic system that they mentioned as a future option. Would allow users that are okay with turning on those features for adding crowdsourced traffic data and stuff like marking cops posting up to get their quotas.

                                    Literally the only thing that keeps me on Waze is that stuff. I have to deal with a lot of interstate travel to and from work and knowing that a big crash happened so I can re-route before getting stuck is crucial. I will still make sure to have this installed just like I had Organic Maps as a good option. And to see what stuff I go to that needs to be updated on OSM and StreetComplete. Had to add all of the addresses on my street on OSM a while ago just to be able to correctly enter my address. One of those addresses that is listed as one town for mailing and is technically within the borders of a smaller one with regards to utilities and plots of land.

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                                    The traffic system would be amazing. This is what is stopping me from using this.

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                                      These shareholders have reportedly used the project’s donation funds for personal expenses, like holiday trips, raising serious concerns about financial transparency.

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                                        Honestly, that just seems normal to me. If you’re looking for an adress in a foreign language, it seems obvious that you’d have to type it in that language. I don’t really understand why people would expect their map to do it for them.

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                                        Because it's an option already. "Transliterate to Latin letters."

                                        Edit: I should add that you should look at how many keyboard layouts there are. It's kind of silly that for me to use an OSM based map and go to any county east of Slovenia I need to both have the keyboard AND know the transliteration of the alphabet.

                                        Have you seen the Armenian or Georgian alphabets? What makes the K sound?

                                        Did you know every dialect of a Slavic language using Cyrillic has it's own distinct keyboard varied by mostly the letter for the nya sound and J?

                                        Greek?

                                        All while transliteration works fine in Google.

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                                          Quick heads up for anyone running verbose NextDNS configs, you'll need to add an exception for this entry currently to start the initial download

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