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I would still download a car if I could. 🚗

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  • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

    Fuck you

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    Fuck you too. You come into a thread about Piracy on a message board about Piracy and start accusing Pirates of being hypocrites when it's clearly you who were being one and then act all surprised because someone called you on your bullshit, and now you are acting like you are some sort of victim. I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

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      Fuck you too. You come into a thread about Piracy on a message board about Piracy and start accusing Pirates of being hypocrites when it's clearly you who were being one and then act all surprised because someone called you on your bullshit, and now you are acting like you are some sort of victim. I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

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      Leave me the fuck alone. I don’t give a fuck what you have to say. Stop harassing me. Fuck off.

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      • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        Leave me the fuck alone. I don’t give a fuck what you have to say. Stop harassing me. Fuck off.

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        sToP hArAsSiNg Me!

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          sToP hArAsSiNg Me!

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          Fuck you, leave me alone.

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          • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

            Fuck you, leave me alone.

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            fuCk YoU, lEaVe Me AlOnE, sToP hArAsSiNg Me! QQ

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              fuCk YoU, lEaVe Me AlOnE, sToP hArAsSiNg Me! QQ

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              Fuck you, leave me the fuck alone.

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              • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                Fuck you, leave me the fuck alone.

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                Why do you keep harassing me? Fuck off! Leave me alone! I have no wish to hear from you!!! QQ

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                  Why do you keep harassing me? Fuck off! Leave me alone! I have no wish to hear from you!!! QQ

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                  So stop replying to me. Leave me alone.

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                  • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                    So stop replying to me. Leave me alone.

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                    So stop replying to me. Leave me alone.

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                    • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                      Are you suggesting that all art should be free?

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                      Capitalism is at the heart of your question. Art should be valued. Artists should be paid. Neither of those things requires capitalism or copyright laws. If as a society we funded artists properly none of this would an issue. The line that copyright is good for artists is total bullshit. It's a smokescreen that corporations use to prop up the system they created and benefit the most from.

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                        So stop replying to me. Leave me alone.

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                        I’m going to block you now, which I should have done quite a while ago. I won’t see your stupid reply to this. So I just want you to know I think you should literally eat shit. Fire up ChatGPT and give it the prompt “give me 5 different recipes that use human shit as the main ingredient”. I’d then like for you to follow the preparation instructions, have at least one bite of each dish, and then write a review for each shit dish in your next reply—which I will not read. I wish you well in your shit eating adventure. And in the future, stop getting so worked up about internet arguments, and leave people alone when they tell you to. Fuck you.

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                        • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                          Ok there buddy. There is no ‘high horse’ here. Piracy is piracy. People need to quit with their bullshit justifications. Just own up to it. I do. The fuck are you on about Christianity? There is literally no connection to religion/beliefs here.

                          People can’t afford to pay for it? Cool. It’s still piracy. One is still depriving the creator/studio/publisher/whatever of a sale.

                          But I can’t afford it! Therefore I deserve to have it for free!

                          Ridiculous.

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                          Folks sail the high seas for lots of reasons. Some people can't afford entertainment otherwise. Some people like the challenge. Some do it for political reasons as an act of resistance against corporate greed. Some do it because they want to and nothing more. Don't make the mistake of assuming everyone else here has the same motives as you.

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                          • flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                            Capitalism is at the heart of your question. Art should be valued. Artists should be paid. Neither of those things requires capitalism or copyright laws. If as a society we funded artists properly none of this would an issue. The line that copyright is good for artists is total bullshit. It's a smokescreen that corporations use to prop up the system they created and benefit the most from.

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                            Capitalism is definitely a major issue. I just don’t see how someone should not be compensated for work they perform, this includes art. Art can be free, but it shouldn’t have to be free. I think we may be saying similar things here.

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                            • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                              I said it has no basis in human culture or history.

                              Not only is this incorrect, it would be meaningless even if it was accurate. What point are you even trying to make with this claim?

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                              It is 100% correct. There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

                              And my point is that the literal entirety of human culture is based on a tradition of storytelling, something copyright expressly forbids.

                              Copyright is not a system that aligns with our natural inclinations or the way we evolved. It's a crude, child like attempt to cram information into a capitalist mold that doesn't work.

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                                It is 100% correct. There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

                                And my point is that the literal entirety of human culture is based on a tradition of storytelling, something copyright expressly forbids.

                                Copyright is not a system that aligns with our natural inclinations or the way we evolved. It's a crude, child like attempt to cram information into a capitalist mold that doesn't work.

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                                There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

                                Brother, copyright has been around since at least the 1700s, you're literally just making things up right now. Read a book.

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                                  Filesharing isn't piracy. It's filesharing.

                                  Piracy is when you attack a ship and steal its cargo.

                                  But, of course, it was difficult for the RIAA to have a war on sharing, so they had to use a different term with sinister connotations and implant it into the public consciousness.

                                  And it worked! You never hear anybody talk about "filesharing" anymore.

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                                    The copyright holder is only actually harmed if I would have paid them otherwise. Since I never would have paid for the movie nothing changes for them.
                                    Nothing is stollen because they would have no idea someone had a copy unless they check.

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                                      Depends what you download but mostly true.

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                                      There's always the exceptions, but they're rare, and getting more rare.

                                      The vast majority of works are owned by a few major corporations, even smaller, more indie games often get published through a major studio, which then retains a good amount of the profit. Almost all media, TV and movies, is owned by one of a handful of companies. Music is largely the same.

                                      It goes the same way for so many other things too. It's not just games and media.

                                      There are always going to be exceptions but on the whole, it's vastly more likely/common that the people profiting from something is a large, faceless organization, which only answers to their shareholders.

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                                      • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                                        There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

                                        Brother, copyright has been around since at least the 1700s, you're literally just making things up right now. Read a book.

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                                        Oh, wow. I'm so impressed.

                                        It's existed since the time of the transatlantic slave trade.

                                        Surely that makes it something human and good!

                                        Totally compares to the previous 2.75 Million years of story telling culture and tradition. Totally not just an exploitative artifact of the corporate age. /S

                                        And go ahead and cite your favourite book on copyright. Maybe I'll read it.

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                                          Oh, wow. I'm so impressed.

                                          It's existed since the time of the transatlantic slave trade.

                                          Surely that makes it something human and good!

                                          Totally compares to the previous 2.75 Million years of story telling culture and tradition. Totally not just an exploitative artifact of the corporate age. /S

                                          And go ahead and cite your favourite book on copyright. Maybe I'll read it.

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                                          Your argument so far has been "it's new (even though it's not) and I don't like it". If you wanna get extra pedantic, the idea of copyright has been floated since the 1500s, and the concept of owning art predates even that. It wasn't until the late 1700s that our current "modern" copyright system began taking form.

                                          Regardless, none of that changes the fact that it's still a real part of our lives now. We don't live 2.75 million years in the past, we live now. Presumably, you wipe after defecating, don't you? Didn't you know that toilet paper is a modern invention that we didn't have a million years ago and only went to market 3 years before slavery was abolished in the US? It's bad and we shouldn't use it, right???

                                          I still don't get what any of this has to do with anything we're talking about, though. I feel like maybe you've talked yourself into a corner by making up nonsense and then trying to defend it. This is dumb, just like every argument defending piracy; it uses sovereign citizen logic where you make up arbitrary rules and definitions that nobody else in society agrees with to justify bad behavior.

                                          If you wanna pirate stuff, then pirate it. But just own it; don't make up silly defenses for why it's okay, because they don't hold up under scrutiny.

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