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Microsoft has never been good at running game studios, which is a problem when it owns them all

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  • M [email protected]

    Shame, exploitive studios that let the business idiots take over and then sell them to Microsoft.

    Will be happy to support the people who used to work there that go on to make indie games.

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    If someone drive a truck full of money up to my house, I'd be hard pressed to say no. See Notch and Minecraft.

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      If someone drive a truck full of money up to my house, I'd be hard pressed to say no. See Notch and Minecraft.

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      I think the larger issue is that so many studios get set up as things that can be sold by one or two people for the benefit of only one or two people. Like, the larger issue is that everyone who has been working at the studio should have some amount of say in if it should be sold or not. And if they do sell, you should be getting a cut of the truck of money.

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        I look forward to the small new game studios that will surely appear as the big old ones are consolidated and/or dismantled.

        It's disappointing to see things we like fade away, but as the sun sets in one place, it rises in another.

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        There is basically no good AAA studio left save for maybe bohemia, rockstar and cd project red.
        Meanwhile indies have risen up and overthrown the corpos by making fun games that set trends.

        A big studio hasnt set a single trend in like over a decade now. AAA gaming has been dead for a while.

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          Would be nice if the studios would stop selling themselves too... They don't have to take Microsoft money

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          You don't have to take your employers money but yet you still do. Same with companies who get bought out.

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          • M [email protected]

            I think the larger issue is that so many studios get set up as things that can be sold by one or two people for the benefit of only one or two people. Like, the larger issue is that everyone who has been working at the studio should have some amount of say in if it should be sold or not. And if they do sell, you should be getting a cut of the truck of money.

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            If you sell your car do you split it evenly between all the mechanics who worked on it?

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              If you sell your car do you split it evenly between all the mechanics who worked on it?

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              I don’t own a car.

              But if I were to buy one, I’d like that every worker at the factory who assembled it got paid some percentage of the factories profits, and had some amount of input on the leadership of the company as a whole, not just an hourly wage.

              Does it generally work like that? No, but doesn’t mean I don’t think that’s a better way to do things.

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                I don’t own a car.

                But if I were to buy one, I’d like that every worker at the factory who assembled it got paid some percentage of the factories profits, and had some amount of input on the leadership of the company as a whole, not just an hourly wage.

                Does it generally work like that? No, but doesn’t mean I don’t think that’s a better way to do things.

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                They do get paid a percentage tho.

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                • E [email protected]

                  They do get paid a percentage tho.

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                  Unless the company is an ESOP, has some sort of profit sharing mechanism or is a co-op, they do not, they only get paid an hourly wage or a salary. If the company becomes more profitable, they do not see a consummate increase In their compensation. And they have no say on if the company is sold, and they are not compensated in anyway for the company they’ve contributed to being sold.

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                    Unless the company is an ESOP, has some sort of profit sharing mechanism or is a co-op, they do not, they only get paid an hourly wage or a salary. If the company becomes more profitable, they do not see a consummate increase In their compensation. And they have no say on if the company is sold, and they are not compensated in anyway for the company they’ve contributed to being sold.

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                    Where do you think the wages materialize? They get paid out of the product sold.
                    Literally every time you buy something the company uses that money to compensate their workers for their time and skill.

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                      Where do you think the wages materialize? They get paid out of the product sold.
                      Literally every time you buy something the company uses that money to compensate their workers for their time and skill.

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                      The wages do not come out of the profit.

                      Profit is revenue minus expenses. Wages are part of expenses.

                      Wages are used to ensure that people working there are able to keep working there, covering day day expenses of the workers.

                      Wages rarely reflect the real value of the effort put in by the people working at the company. They reflect the cost to the worker of choosing to work at the company.

                      I think that workers at a company should be payed some percentage of the profit of the company, with financiers and investors receiving some percentage of the profit in turn.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        The wages do not come out of the profit.

                        Profit is revenue minus expenses. Wages are part of expenses.

                        Wages are used to ensure that people working there are able to keep working there, covering day day expenses of the workers.

                        Wages rarely reflect the real value of the effort put in by the people working at the company. They reflect the cost to the worker of choosing to work at the company.

                        I think that workers at a company should be payed some percentage of the profit of the company, with financiers and investors receiving some percentage of the profit in turn.

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                        I agree, wages should be distributed more evenly with the bare minimum wage being so that fuckhead todd who never does anything and only works part time could still afford paying morgage/rent, food and transportation.
                        Id also like managers and ceos be held responsible for any big fuckups of the company. How nestle is still allowed to exist is beyond me.

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