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Microsoft Shifts Xbox Gaming Handheld Ambitions to Third-Party Windows Handhelds, Postpones 2027 Launch Plans

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    alphane_moon@lemmy.world
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      muskymelon@lemmy.world
      wrote on 30 May 2025, 05:43 last edited by
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      It's their own fault they couldn't see a demand for handheld gaming.

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        hperrin@lemmy.ca
        wrote on 30 May 2025, 05:56 last edited by
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        Cool. I’ll just be over here happily playing my Steam Deck.

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          bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
          wrote on 30 May 2025, 06:22 last edited by
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          At this rate they should brand it as a Zune device.

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            alecsadler@sh.itjust.works
            wrote on 30 May 2025, 06:30 last edited by
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            There is absolutely zero chance a windows handheld gaming device succeeds, what the actual fuck are they thinking, lol.

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            • H hperrin@lemmy.ca
              30 May 2025, 05:56

              Cool. I’ll just be over here happily playing my Steam Deck.

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              yermaw@lemm.ee
              wrote on 30 May 2025, 06:48 last edited by
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              Maybe even get Xbox gamepass on it.

              Im honestly not sure why they're making a handheld Xbox after their "everything is an xbox" push. Why have just an Xbox when you can get anything else PLUS an Xbox for likely cheaper?

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              • A alecsadler@sh.itjust.works
                30 May 2025, 06:30

                There is absolutely zero chance a windows handheld gaming device succeeds, what the actual fuck are they thinking, lol.

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                luffy879@lemmy.ml
                wrote on 30 May 2025, 07:27 last edited by
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                Dont overestimate the power of the Lobotomites.

                They already managed to invade Lemmy and complain about SteamOS not supporting a 4090, so its only a matter of time until they start hating linux alltogether

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                • L luffy879@lemmy.ml
                  30 May 2025, 07:27

                  Dont overestimate the power of the Lobotomites.

                  They already managed to invade Lemmy and complain about SteamOS not supporting a 4090, so its only a matter of time until they start hating linux alltogether

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                  sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  wrote on 30 May 2025, 08:06 last edited by
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                  But generally they already do hate Linux, we're talking about the demographic that considers webp a bad image format because some Windows default applications don't support it while having no idea what the format is like

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                    30 May 2025, 06:30

                    There is absolutely zero chance a windows handheld gaming device succeeds, what the actual fuck are they thinking, lol.

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                    plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
                    wrote on 30 May 2025, 08:43 last edited by
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                    What do you mean? The ROG Ally has been successful. It’s a great device.

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                      yesman@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 30 May 2025, 08:52 last edited by
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                      If M$ was smart, they'd develop a version of Windows optimized for gaming. But they can't do that without implying that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

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                        30 May 2025, 08:52

                        If M$ was smart, they'd develop a version of Windows optimized for gaming. But they can't do that without implying that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

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                        spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca
                        wrote on 30 May 2025, 09:54 last edited by
                        #11

                        That is literally what they’re doing.

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                        • P plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
                          30 May 2025, 08:43

                          What do you mean? The ROG Ally has been successful. It’s a great device.

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                          It's powerful, but the device isn't "great." It suffers from poor ASUS quality control and support. Let's also not forget the notorious overheating SD card slot because they thought it was a good idea to put it next to the exhaust. It's a poorly thought out design especially compared to the Steam Deck. Valve's effort is still the best on the market.

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                            30 May 2025, 08:52

                            If M$ was smart, they'd develop a version of Windows optimized for gaming. But they can't do that without implying that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

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                            natanael@infosec.pub
                            wrote on 30 May 2025, 10:39 last edited by
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                            They're probably building off Windows RT (the locked down variant designed for ARM tablets).

                            If they were smart they'd imitate some of how SteamOS runs games in a modified WinRT environment - TLDR do NOT start up the entire Win32 runtime and desktop environment by default, don't run stuff like printer services and whatnot, just run a simplified sandbox and window manager with just the APIs needed to run the games similar to Proton. Then let the user switch to desktop mode as needed, but don't run it when gaming.

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                              30 May 2025, 10:02

                              It's powerful, but the device isn't "great." It suffers from poor ASUS quality control and support. Let's also not forget the notorious overheating SD card slot because they thought it was a good idea to put it next to the exhaust. It's a poorly thought out design especially compared to the Steam Deck. Valve's effort is still the best on the market.

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                              plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
                              wrote on 30 May 2025, 10:43 last edited by plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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                              I bought mine used with the SD card slot busted and I still think it’s great. Maybe because I didn’t pay 600 bucks for it!Definitely my favorite handheld ever.

                              I think the Steam Deck is pretty neat and I love the design of the device itself (I am not enthusiastic about the Ally’s L337G4mer aesthetics, and even less so with the monstrosity above), but for me not having access to Gamepass is a deal breaker so I’d never consider it. Maybe when I fully jump into PC gaming sometime soon I’ll switch my tune. But I digress. Other than the SD issue I’ve found that the ROG Ally is a very capable device and I have seen no other issues with it to be honest. The software it comes with is actually pretty good and makes it so that you don’t have to deal with Windows almost at all. The coolest thing is that you can dock it and you basically have a mid end workstation too.

                              My fist handheld was the Gameboy Color so it just boggles my mind how far we’ve come.

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                                30 May 2025, 08:52

                                If M$ was smart, they'd develop a version of Windows optimized for gaming. But they can't do that without implying that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

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                                kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                                wrote on 30 May 2025, 11:08 last edited by kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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                                Eh.. No

                                Without implying that desktop Windows wasn't made with hardware that has neither a keyboard or a mouse in mind? That it wasn't made to be used on a 7" screen? Sure.

                                Only in the Linux fanatics minds does it implies that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

                                It's not as if people are using the Steam Deck in desktop mode when they want to play games either and the experience on Steam OS in desktop mode if you don't connect at least a keyboard is pretty shit as well, so I guess that the fact that by default it boots in Steam mode must be a proof that Linux is inferior for games if we follow your logic.

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                                  It's powerful, but the device isn't "great." It suffers from poor ASUS quality control and support. Let's also not forget the notorious overheating SD card slot because they thought it was a good idea to put it next to the exhaust. It's a poorly thought out design especially compared to the Steam Deck. Valve's effort is still the best on the market.

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                                  kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                                  wrote on 30 May 2025, 11:19 last edited by
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                                  So nothing Windows related

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                                    30 May 2025, 10:43

                                    I bought mine used with the SD card slot busted and I still think it’s great. Maybe because I didn’t pay 600 bucks for it!Definitely my favorite handheld ever.

                                    I think the Steam Deck is pretty neat and I love the design of the device itself (I am not enthusiastic about the Ally’s L337G4mer aesthetics, and even less so with the monstrosity above), but for me not having access to Gamepass is a deal breaker so I’d never consider it. Maybe when I fully jump into PC gaming sometime soon I’ll switch my tune. But I digress. Other than the SD issue I’ve found that the ROG Ally is a very capable device and I have seen no other issues with it to be honest. The software it comes with is actually pretty good and makes it so that you don’t have to deal with Windows almost at all. The coolest thing is that you can dock it and you basically have a mid end workstation too.

                                    My fist handheld was the Gameboy Color so it just boggles my mind how far we’ve come.

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                                    Right? Handheld PCs are incredible. They're the best thing about modern gaming, imo. I dock my steam deck to my TV with a wireless kb/m, and it's my main PC setup. It's the ultimate minimalist device for PC gamers.

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                                      30 May 2025, 08:52

                                      If M$ was smart, they'd develop a version of Windows optimized for gaming. But they can't do that without implying that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

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                                      atrielienz@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 30 May 2025, 11:57 last edited by atrielienz@lemmy.world
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                                      They already have the Xbox framework. I don't understand why it's so difficult to just use that for gaming and give the handheld the ability to launch a lightweight version of Windows similar to the easy way Steam OS will let you exit to Linux desktop.

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                                        Right? Handheld PCs are incredible. They're the best thing about modern gaming, imo. I dock my steam deck to my TV with a wireless kb/m, and it's my main PC setup. It's the ultimate minimalist device for PC gamers.

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                                        dremor@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 30 May 2025, 12:12 last edited by dremor@lemmy.world
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                                        Honestly, and I say that as a 98% Deck player (according to last year Steam Recap), it is starting to lack horsepower.
                                        I really hope the Deck 2 will allow for external GPUs when docked, because E33 really did put it on his knees 😅.
                                        Even at "optimized" settings (which you cannot change on the Deck), I was at 20-30 FPS unless I enabled XeSS. And even then it looked like shit 😅.

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                                          30 May 2025, 12:12

                                          Honestly, and I say that as a 98% Deck player (according to last year Steam Recap), it is starting to lack horsepower.
                                          I really hope the Deck 2 will allow for external GPUs when docked, because E33 really did put it on his knees 😅.
                                          Even at "optimized" settings (which you cannot change on the Deck), I was at 20-30 FPS unless I enabled XeSS. And even then it looked like shit 😅.

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                                          plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
                                          wrote on 30 May 2025, 13:04 last edited by
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                                          That depends a lot on what you’re playing and what your expectations are. I use my Ally to play older games and indies and I feel like it’s great for that. AAA experiences I play on my Xbox Series X.

                                          I have a friend who’s had every handheld and he says they all suck, but he’s expecting to play stuff like COD at high settings and 60fps. That’s just not realistic.

                                          But again I’m coming from growing up with gameboys and Nintendo DS so I don’t have the expectations that someone who grew up in the HD generation might have.

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